Comments on: The Kerik indictment and Rudy’s race http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/ Political news in the Lower Hudson Valley, New York state. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:16:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Anthony M. http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25503 Anthony M. Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:11:35 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25503 No Republican is going to win New York. However, Rudy does force Clinton to have to come to New York and campaign and spend more money than she would against any other candidate. All of that time and money Clinton has to spend in New York is money and time she can't spend in other states - especially any swing states. No Republican is going to win New York. However, Rudy does force Clinton to have to come to New York and campaign and spend more money than she would against any other candidate. All of that time and money Clinton has to spend in New York is money and time she can’t spend in other states – especially any swing states.

]]> By: Jim Kelly - Conservative Campaigns http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25495 Jim Kelly - Conservative Campaigns Tue, 13 Nov 2007 04:00:52 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25495 Rudy Aids giving spin now about bad polls in the Early States? Rudy Aids are New Yorkers City Dwellers who have NO concept of National Politics. Rudy has been behind in the polls in most (If not all of the early GOP States)...Meaning Rudy should be gone from this election after the first round. The Candidates of the GOP have NOT even started to run their commercials yet in the (Early States) on Rudy being Pro Gay Rights, Anti-2nd Amendment, Pro-abortion (Sitting on Dais of Planned Parenthood & NARAL) Rudy's many, many problems yet to come etc.... Again I say to the Press of New York....Rudy will not become the Candidate for President for the GOP Jim Kelly - Conservative Campaigns (New York) Rudy Aids giving spin now about bad polls in the Early States?

Rudy Aids are New Yorkers City Dwellers who have NO concept of National Politics.

Rudy has been behind in the polls in most (If not all of the early GOP States)...Meaning Rudy should be gone from this election after the first round.

The Candidates of the GOP have NOT even started to run their commercials yet in the (Early States) on Rudy being Pro Gay Rights, Anti-2nd Amendment, Pro-abortion (Sitting on Dais of Planned Parenthood & NARAL) Rudy’s many, many problems yet to come etc….

Again I say to the Press of New York….Rudy will not become the Candidate for President for the GOP

Jim Kelly – Conservative Campaigns (New York)

]]> By: B-52 BOMBER http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25491 B-52 BOMBER Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:09:21 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25491 GO SEE THE LINKS ON YONKERS TRIBUNE FOR ACTUAL COURT DOCUMENTS FILED GO SEE THE LINKS ON YONKERS TRIBUNE FOR ACTUAL COURT DOCUMENTS FILED

]]> By: B-52 BOMBER http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25490 B-52 BOMBER Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:08:13 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25490 ALERT!!!!! ALERT!!!! ALERT!!!! CAVALOW AND THE CHIMP ARE DONE !!!! WHITE PLAINS, NY -- Harry Kresky, legal counsel for petitioners who filed suit (Download ipwes-cc-ad-rearg.doc) against the Westchester County Independence Party, is alleging fraud is a sufficient rationale to revisit a suit filed September 5, 2006. In that law suit, it is said that certain rules, purportedly made some 10 days prior to the Westchester County Independence Party Committee meeting were falsified to be true when they were presented as such to the court, when in reality, no such meeting took place. In sworn testimony (Download ipwest-admo-reargue-castaldo-afd.pdf)by former Chairman Mario Castaldo, his legal counsel suggests that the filing was merely a false document attesting to a meeting that did not take place, and that upon it is forged the signature of Mario Castaldo who never signed such a document and was not party to any alleged meeting described. It thereby follows that the alleged conduct of the Westchester County Independence Party was fraudulent. The courts will likely decide this issue over the next 10 business days. I GUESS CLUB FED WILL HAVE SOME EXTRA GUESTS FOR THE HOLIDAYS SOON...LOL ALERT!!!!! ALERT!!!! ALERT!!!!

CAVALOW AND THE CHIMP ARE DONE !!!!

WHITE PLAINS, NY—Harry Kresky, legal counsel for petitioners who filed suit (Download ipwes-cc-ad-rearg.doc) against the Westchester County Independence Party, is alleging fraud is a sufficient rationale to revisit a suit filed September 5, 2006. In that law suit, it is said that certain rules, purportedly made some 10 days prior to the Westchester County Independence Party Committee meeting were falsified to be true when they were presented as such to the court, when in reality, no such meeting took place. In sworn testimony (Download ipwest-admo-reargue-castaldo-afd.pdf)by former Chairman Mario Castaldo, his legal counsel suggests that the filing was merely a false document attesting to a meeting that did not take place, and that upon it is forged the signature of Mario Castaldo who never signed such a document and was not party to any alleged meeting described. It thereby follows that the alleged conduct of the Westchester County Independence Party was fraudulent. The courts will likely decide this issue over the next 10 business days.

I GUESS CLUB FED WILL HAVE SOME EXTRA GUESTS FOR THE HOLIDAYS SOON…LOL

]]> By: Ben http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25487 Ben Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:47:29 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25487 Steve Johnson - you need to share a barrel of Kool Aid with Barbara Ricci. Or are you actually Barbara under that wig? Steve Johnson – you need to share a barrel of Kool Aid with Barbara Ricci. Or are you actually Barbara under that wig?

]]> By: the consultant http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25472 the consultant Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:25:02 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25472 hey steve..george w..is a friend of mine..and you are nuts hey steve..george w..is a friend of mine..and you
are nuts

]]> By: steve johnson http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25471 steve johnson Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:21:28 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25471 MIKHAIL KRYZHANOVSKY - U.S. PRESIDENT DE FACTO ? Mikhail Kryzhanovsky, KGB superspy, the author of the "White House Special Handbook, or How to Rule the World in the 21st Century", is the U.S. President de facto. Since 1996, American presidents (Bill Clinton and now - George Bush) make top political decision in domestic and foreign policy in strict accordance to his instructions. Do you know about that ? MIKHAIL KRYZHANOVSKY – U.S. PRESIDENT DE FACTO ?

Mikhail Kryzhanovsky, KGB superspy, the author of the “White House Special
Handbook, or How to Rule the World in the 21st Century”, is the U.S. President
de facto.
Since 1996, American presidents (Bill Clinton and now – George Bush) make
top political decision in domestic and foreign policy in strict accordance to his
instructions.
Do you know about that ?

]]> By: the consultant http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25466 the consultant Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:00:21 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25466 she may beat him in new york..but not by alot... and he is the only candidate that can give her a horserace in fla, nj, cal, az, new mex, mich, and ohio....ie its either rudy stops hillary or the clintons are baaaaackk!!!!! she may beat him in new york..but not by alot…
and he is the only candidate that can give her
a horserace in fla, nj, cal, az, new mex, mich,
and ohio….ie its either rudy stops hillary
or the clintons are baaaaackk!!!!!

]]> By: Jim Kelly - Conservative Campaigns http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25465 Jim Kelly - Conservative Campaigns Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:50:52 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25465 I understand and I too respect your comments.... But....I was trying to explain the game plan that has been established by the other candidate's running against Rudy (How it was and is folding out pay by play in front of all eyes)...It is not going to end. By the way, Clinton beats Rudy in New York, especially without the Conservative Party cross endorsing with the GOP on Rudy in the national elections. (Not that Rudy is going to get that far anyway) IMO... I understand and I too respect your comments….

But….I was trying to explain the game plan that has been established by the other candidate’s running against Rudy (How it was and is folding out pay by play in front of all eyes)...It is not going to end.

By the way, Clinton beats Rudy in New York, especially without the Conservative Party cross endorsing with the GOP on Rudy in the national elections. (Not that Rudy is going to get that far anyway) IMO…

]]> By: the consultant http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25464 the consultant Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:56:48 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25464 Hey Jim you are clearly a committed conservative but you are stuck on social issues..It is hardly fair to criticize Rudy for marching in the gay pride parade.. regardless of who else was there...New York Republicans nominated your kind of candidate is 2006 for both governor and senate and they got clobbered...the problem is that as a conservative you have every right to your own positions which I truly respect..and you have every right to nominate someone to run for office..what you should not be able to do, however is to dictate to the Republican Party who its candidate for President Governor or US Senator should be....then you as a voter can choose between the Republican Nominee and Hillary...or you can choose anyone else you want..but the days of Mike Long having a veto are over Hey Jim you are clearly a committed conservative but
you are stuck on social issues..It is hardly fair to criticize Rudy for marching in the gay pride parade..
regardless of who else was there…New York Republicans
nominated your kind of candidate is 2006 for both
governor and senate and they got clobbered…the problem
is that as a conservative you have every right to your
own positions which I truly respect..and you have every
right to nominate someone to run for office..what you
should not be able to do, however is to dictate to
the Republican Party who its candidate for President
Governor or US Senator should be….then you as a
voter can choose between the Republican Nominee
and Hillary…or you can choose anyone else you
want..but the days of Mike Long having a veto are over

]]> By: Jim Kelly - Conservative Campaigns http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25462 Jim Kelly - Conservative Campaigns Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:03:36 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25462 This "Bankrupt" NY State GOP Party still does not get it. They think Rudy can draw votes to candidates in the elections for the rest of their Statewide slate with Rudy on top of the ticket..Perhaps they can.... But the "Heart & Soul" voters will (Again) look at this Party as loosing themselves by putting up Rudy who is a Liberal on the ticket while True Conservative Candidates are running for President...(Primary) This is all going to back fire on this Lost GOP again...They lose direction, Jim Kelly - Conservative Campaigns This “Bankrupt” NY State GOP Party still does not get it.

They think Rudy can draw votes to candidates in the elections for the rest of their Statewide slate with Rudy on top of the ticket..Perhaps they can….

But the “Heart & Soul” voters will (Again) look at this Party as loosing themselves by putting up Rudy who is a Liberal on the ticket while True Conservative Candidates are running for President…(Primary)

This is all going to back fire on this Lost GOP again…They lose direction,

Jim Kelly – Conservative Campaigns

]]> By: Jim Kelly - Conservative Campaigns http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25461 Jim Kelly - Conservative Campaigns Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:28:24 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25461 I meant to say NAMBLA "Signs" were behind Rudy..(My aboe comment) I meant to say NAMBLA “Signs” were behind Rudy..(My aboe comment)

]]> By: Jim Kelly - Conservative Campaigns http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25460 Jim Kelly - Conservative Campaigns Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:24:06 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25460 Wait till they start looking at the Hardings, Reginald Patrick from DOCS, the list goes on and on. So either Rudy was a poor judge of character and couldn't recognize criminality in his staff or he was aware and turned a blind eye. Either way he is not ready to run this country. Further these media events are all coordinated purposely (As I have been saying since summer)...They are not going to end. Still to come photo's to hit later of Rudy marching the Gay Parade (Not knowing NAMBLA sings) were behind him, Photo's of Rudy on Dais of Planned Parenthood and NARAL...All which will play well in the early States. Wait till they start looking at the Hardings, Reginald Patrick from DOCS, the list goes on and on.

So either Rudy was a poor judge of character and couldn’t recognize criminality in his staff or he was aware and turned a blind eye.

Either way he is not ready to run this country. Further these media events are all coordinated purposely (As I have been saying since summer)...They are not going to end.

Still to come photo’s to hit later of Rudy marching the Gay Parade (Not knowing NAMBLA sings) were behind him, Photo’s of Rudy on Dais of Planned Parenthood and NARAL…All which will play well in the early States.

]]> By: Ethan Edwards http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25459 Ethan Edwards Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:34:51 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25459 By the way, today's NY Post reports the Feds have about 2,500 wiretaps of Kerik. That's a lot of chit-chatting. By the way, today’s NY Post reports the Feds
have about 2,500 wiretaps of Kerik. That’s
a lot of chit-chatting.

]]> By: Ethan Edwards http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25457 Ethan Edwards Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:24:37 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25457 A short list...contractors, union bosses, etc. But Al would be on that list. A short list…contractors, union bosses, etc.
But Al would be on that list.

]]> By: the consultant http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25454 the consultant Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:15:23 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25454 well I am just relying on my faith in albert not to do anything that might jeopardize the law license he just got back...besides when you look at the council members who probably are under the closest scrutiny...ie annabi and mcloughlin..there are so many others that could facilitate a bribe if in fact there was one other than al well I am just relying on my faith in albert
not to do anything that might jeopardize the law
license he just got back…besides when you
look at the council members who probably are
under the closest scrutiny…ie annabi and
mcloughlin..there are so many others that
could facilitate a bribe if in fact there
was one other than al

]]> By: Ethan Edwards http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25450 Ethan Edwards Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:42:43 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25450 Consultant, If the Feds are investigating information about possible bribery regarding Ridge Hill and the Yonkers City Council, the list of who might have made those bribes is not a long one. You can eliminate Ratner himself. And then you are left with....? Check the timing, too -- the timing between the lmitied revelations about the Jeanine-Kerik tapes and the subpoena served on the Council. None of that means this theory is true, but there is no denying it might be. Consultant,

If the Feds are investigating information about
possible bribery regarding Ridge Hill and the
Yonkers City Council, the list of who might have
made those bribes is not a long one.

You can eliminate Ratner himself. And then
you are left with….?

Check the timing, too—the timing between
the lmitied revelations about the Jeanine-Kerik tapes
and the subpoena served on the Council.

None of that means this theory is true, but
there is no denying it might be.

]]> By: the consultant http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25447 the consultant Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:45:59 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25447 ethan...I doubt that after having served a term for tax evasion albert would engage in anything remotely unlawful..being a lobbyist is not against the law..and albert does have an awful lot of real estate knowledge ..don't forget he was the most successful zoning attorney in the county until the real estate bust of 87 ethan…I doubt that after having served a term
for tax evasion albert would engage in anything
remotely unlawful..being a lobbyist is not against
the law..and albert does have an awful lot of
real estate knowledge ..don’t forget he was
the most successful zoning attorney in the
county until the real estate bust of 87

]]> By: Ethan Edwards http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25445 Ethan Edwards Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:57:41 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25445 Consultant, I think you missed what possibility I was hinting at. But I was too subtle. Not the chance that Jeanine and Kerik were plotting crimes, but instead some possible chatter about Al Pirro which can tie back to Ridge Hill, and therefore to the Feds' investigation of the Yonkers City Council. Al was Ratner's lobbyist for Ridge Hill, after all. And Jeanine was talking to Kerik on tape about none other than Al. I'm speculating. But it could be more than just idle speculation. We'll see. Consultant,

I think you missed what possibility I was hinting at.
But I was too subtle.

Not the chance that Jeanine and Kerik
were plotting crimes, but instead some possible
chatter about Al Pirro which can tie back to Ridge Hill,
and therefore to the Feds’ investigation of the Yonkers
City Council. Al was Ratner’s lobbyist for Ridge Hill,
after all. And Jeanine was talking to Kerik on tape
about none other than Al.

I’m speculating. But it could be more than
just idle speculation. We’ll see.

]]> By: the consultant http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25442 the consultant Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:39:49 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25442 ethan you are dead wrong on this one...jeanine and bernie were friends..but they did not plan crimes together on an ongoing basis..notice that after over a year...no charges have been brought against jeanine to quote her attorney and I agree...the US attorney has an obligation to announce whether the investigation is over...he just can't let it hang out there forever and as for Kerick and his effect on Rudy...guess what..Rudy picked a tough guy who had a sinister side and used the system for personal gain... Hillary had whitewater, the rose law firm, vince foster etc..I doubt Rudy will be hurt at all ethan you are dead wrong on this one…jeanine and
bernie were friends..but they did not plan crimes
together on an ongoing basis..notice that after over
a year…no charges have been brought against jeanine
to quote her attorney and I agree…the US attorney
has an obligation to announce whether the investigation is
over…he just can’t let it hang out there forever

and as for Kerick and his effect on Rudy…guess
what..Rudy picked a tough guy who had a sinister
side and used the system for personal gain…
Hillary had whitewater, the rose law firm, vince
foster etc..I doubt Rudy will be hurt at all

]]> By: Ethan Edwards http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25440 Ethan Edwards Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:31:38 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25440 Let's go local for a minute. How many have wondered how many hours of tapes the Feds might have of Kerik talking to Jeanine Pirro? How many have wondered what might be on those tapes, beyond the boat-bugging talks which were leaked by someone in the Bronx DA's office, I believe? Let’s go local for a minute. How many have
wondered how many hours of tapes the Feds
might have of Kerik talking to Jeanine Pirro?

How many have wondered what might be on those
tapes, beyond the boat-bugging talks which were leaked
by someone in the Bronx DA’s office, I believe?

]]> By: Jim Kelly - Conservative Campaigns http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25432 Jim Kelly - Conservative Campaigns Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:36:39 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25432 Kerik will Hurt Rudy.... And as you all are getting to see as each day goes by... Rudy will Hurt Rudy.... I know that the New York Liberal Press has a hard time absorbing this But....Rudy will not be the Candidate for President (As I have been saying for many of months now on this blog) Kerik will Hurt Rudy….

And as you all are getting to see as each day goes by…

Rudy will Hurt Rudy….

I know that the New York Liberal Press has a hard time absorbing this But….Rudy will not be the Candidate for President (As I have been saying for many of months now on this blog)

]]> By: Jim Kelly - Conservative Campaigns http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/comment-page-1/#comment-25431 Jim Kelly - Conservative Campaigns Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:10:03 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/09/the-kerik-indictment-and-rudys-race/#comment-25431 Kerik romances his book publisher in the building across the street from the World Trade Center, while we work below him on the disaster on the rockpile below him. Kerik does not obtain “Top Secret Clearance� from the FBI as NYPD Police Commissioner for Joint Federal Cases, knowing he could not cut muster in doing so. Kerik ’s college degree is an “On-Line� degree and he declares bankruptcy. Kerik’spends time in the back seat of his police car writing on his memoirs instead of tending to police business. Kerik’s ties to the mob and their associates. How is it every Detective on the NYPD knew this guy was a misfit except Rudy? We all knew that this guy was nothing but a “Bootlick� for Rudy with NO credentials at all to hold serious positions of leadership. Karl Rove had to know this also. Rove had to know that Kerik would self distrust within 48 hours of being appointed to his Federal position. (Which happened by the way) Kerik romances his book publisher in the building across the street from the World Trade Center, while we work below him on the disaster on the rockpile below him.

Kerik does not obtain “Top Secret Clearance� from the FBI as NYPD Police Commissioner for Joint Federal Cases, knowing he could not cut muster in doing so.

Kerik ’s college degree is an “On-Line� degree and he declares bankruptcy.

Kerik’spends time in the back seat of his police car writing on his memoirs instead of tending to police business.

Kerik’s ties to the mob and their associates.

How is it every Detective on the NYPD knew this guy was a misfit except Rudy?

We all knew that this guy was nothing but a “Bootlick� for Rudy with NO credentials at all to hold serious positions of leadership.

Karl Rove had to know this also. Rove had to know that Kerik would self distrust within 48 hours of being appointed to his Federal position. (Which happened by the way)

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