About all those pre-primary polls
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- January
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So what went wrong with all the polls leading up to the Democratic primary in New Hampshire?
Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion, just issued a statement trying to make sense of it all. In short, Miringoff admits that the polls all missed the mark but also argues that the race was changing even as the polls were being announced.
The widely-seen video of Clinton tearing up, according to the Marist view of things, played a huge role.
“The last hours of the campaign were a media feeding frenzy over Clinton’s show of emotion when responding to a voter’s question on Monday morning,” Miringoff argued. “Video of her ‘emotional’ moment was everywhere. It was played over and over with unrelenting commentary. Hillary Clinton was again the victim. ”
Miringoff also noted that most of the polls, including Marist, were accurate in measuring Obama’s level of support in the state. What they missed, he said, was the support Senator Hillary Clinton would garner from New Hampshire Democratic primary voters.
Read the entire Marist statement after the jump.
So, what exactly happened last night in New Hampshire? Did Hillary Clinton have a stunning comeback in the closing hours of the campaign or were the pollsters and pundits alike just dead wrong all along? Well, for answers, we at the Marist Poll took a look at the numbers.
For starters, the contest on the Republican side played out true to expectations. Bolstered by independent voters, Senator John McCain beat former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney. McCain has always been a good fit with New Hampshire Republican primary voters with his “Straight Talk Express.” He won the state eight years ago against George Bush only to falter in South Carolina.
But, what happened on the Democratic side of the ledger? Editorially, the polls missed the mark. In other words, they touted poll watchers in the wrong direction suggesting Senator Barack Obama was positioned to win.
Interestingly, with few exceptions, most polls were accurate in measuring Obama’s level of support in the state. The Marist Poll had him receiving 36% of the vote and eight of the polls conducted over the last days of the campaign had him within the statistical range of his final vote. What they underestimated was the support Senator Hillary Clinton would garner from New Hampshire Democratic primary voters.
All of the Democratic candidates were well liked in New Hampshire [Gallup Poll]. During the final days of the campaign, Democratic primary voters were deciding whom to vote for among candidates they liked with nearly four out of ten making up their minds in the last three days according to the exit polls. They weren’t voting against any of them.
As pollsters, we can re-evaluate our models and recalculate the numbers. But, what the weekend polls found was an Obama lead as primary day approached. What they do not reflect is what was apparent here in New Hampshire. The context of the campaign was changing. The last hours of the campaign were a media feeding frenzy over Clinton’s show of emotion when responding to a voter’s question on Monday morning. Video of her “emotional” moment was everywhere. It was played over and over with unrelenting commentary. Hillary Clinton was again the victim.
New Hampshire has a tradition of voting for women. Democratic Primary voters also like the Clintons. If the pollsters and media pundits erred, it was not in their weekend numbers but in not polling Monday and missing the impact of the unrelenting media coverage that characterized the Clintons as finished.
Unfortunately, few pollsters polled here in New Hampshire on election eve and no one released Monday only poll results. How New Hampshire voters were evaluating the race and the factors they were weighing in the last hours of the campaign were never measured. Even the exit polls, designed in advance, would not capture the final mood of the voters about the campaign. As a result, explanations about what happened here are fueled more by conjecture than by the numbers.
One such example is the suggestion of the Bradley Effect. The idea is that in bi-racial contests support for the African American candidate is overstated. The view suggests that white voters lie to pollsters about their choice because it is politically correct to support the African American candidate but in the privacy of the voting booth cast their ballot for the white candidate. Many years ago in a New York City mayoralty race David Dinkins, the Democrat and an African American, was poised to trounce Republican Rudy Giuliani. On Sunday, most polls including the Marist Poll showed Dinkins with a double-digit lead. Dinkins won, but narrowly.
Pollsters and pundits struggled to come up with reasons including the Bradley Effect. But that was not an accurate explanation of what happened. On the Monday before the election a story of corruption broke out about Dinkins. It had not been the first. The Marist Poll surveyed voters through election eve. The results found in the midst of such intense media pounding about the corruption scandal many voters had, in fact, become disillusioned with Dinkins. His lead had collapsed in our Marist Poll from 13 percentage points on Sunday to barely 2 percentage points by Monday night. This matched the eventual election result.
Here in New Hampshire, for the most part, Obama’s support was not overstated in the polls. But the polls missed the magnitude of the support for Clinton. Although the pollsters in New Hampshire cannot have Monday night back, we plan to re-contact in the next few days the voters we spoke with over the weekend to glean whatever additional insights we can.
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The truth of the matter is Hillary supporters back her quietly but do not want to argue with the anti-Hillary crowd. The anti-Hillary crowd is loud and annoying and people would rather not deal with them and let their vote speak for them. When Hillary first ran for the United States Senate I helped work the train station and I got what the results never showed. People were supporting her but did not want to confront the opposition. At work I see and hear the same thing, the Hillary supporters do talk about it or preach it, they just go out and do it. Those who dislike Hillary act as if you are committing a crime if you say you support her, that is why the polls do not accurately reflect Hillary’s true numbers. In happened in her race against Fazio and it is happening again. Hillary will win the Democratic nomination and the people who vote for her will let their voice be heard behind the voting curtain.
The Marist statement is like a doctor explaining
an operation after the patient has died.
But if they knew what they were doing in the first
place, this wouldn’t have happened.
No talking head, no pollster or pundit should
be given the time of day with their opinions.
They are not credible.
A group of winos in a drunk tank could have
done just as well as they did last night.
I only pay attention to polls a little bit. Hey, the exit polls called 2004 for Kerry, and look how that turned out…
as my good friend and collegue Lawrence Otis Graham pointed
out the other day, African American candidates have consisitantly overpolled and underperformed in comparison
eg Tom Bradley in California, Harold Ford in Tennesee.
The “race” factor may be more of a lingering doubt on the
part of some democrats that although they would have no
problem voting for an African American President, they are
uncertain whether middle America would be able to..ie
the polls overstate the actual support black candidates
have…I on the other hand believe that in Obama’s
case, the voters of New Hampshire, looking at the supposed
double digit lead he had going into the primary, decided
that, maybe he did not measure up in terms of experience
to Hillary Clinton, and that annointing him the nominee
which winning the New Hampshire Primary would have done
was a little pre-mature..and an honor that the democrats
of New Hampshire would just as soon decline for the time
being to allow the campaigns to play out ..after all its
only a few more weeks till super tuesday so why short
cut the process…
John Kerry is about to endorse Obama, apparently today.
Also, in today’s NY Daily News, Helen Kennedy has a very
good analysis of Hillary’s “Losing It” (those misty eyes)
and how it propelled her New Hampshire win.
With ample reason, Kennedy is dubious of how genuine that
moment really was. That entire incident also raises legitimate questions about the way some, even many, women
vote. Sorry, but that’s the truth.
But the same can be said about other kinds of voters.