Comments on: About all those pre-primary polls http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/09/about-all-those-pre-primary-polls/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:51:32 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Ethan Edwards http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/09/about-all-those-pre-primary-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-27136 Ethan Edwards Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:10:52 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/09/about-all-those-pre-primary-polls/#comment-27136 John Kerry is about to endorse Obama, apparently today. Also, in today's NY Daily News, Helen Kennedy has a very good analysis of Hillary's "Losing It" (those misty eyes) and how it propelled her New Hampshire win. With ample reason, Kennedy is dubious of how genuine that moment really was. That entire incident also raises legitimate questions about the way some, even many, women vote. Sorry, but that's the truth. But the same can be said about other kinds of voters. John Kerry is about to endorse Obama, apparently today.

Also, in today’s NY Daily News, Helen Kennedy has a very
good analysis of Hillary’s “Losing It” (those misty eyes)
and how it propelled her New Hampshire win.

With ample reason, Kennedy is dubious of how genuine that
moment really was. That entire incident also raises legitimate questions about the way some, even many, women
vote. Sorry, but that’s the truth.

But the same can be said about other kinds of voters.

]]> By: the consultant http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/09/about-all-those-pre-primary-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-27135 the consultant Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:47:10 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/09/about-all-those-pre-primary-polls/#comment-27135 as my good friend and collegue Lawrence Otis Graham pointed out the other day, African American candidates have consisitantly overpolled and underperformed in comparison eg Tom Bradley in California, Harold Ford in Tennesee. The "race" factor may be more of a lingering doubt on the part of some democrats that although they would have no problem voting for an African American President, they are uncertain whether middle America would be able to..ie the polls overstate the actual support black candidates have...I on the other hand believe that in Obama's case, the voters of New Hampshire, looking at the supposed double digit lead he had going into the primary, decided that, maybe he did not measure up in terms of experience to Hillary Clinton, and that annointing him the nominee which winning the New Hampshire Primary would have done was a little pre-mature..and an honor that the democrats of New Hampshire would just as soon decline for the time being to allow the campaigns to play out ..after all its only a few more weeks till super tuesday so why short cut the process... as my good friend and collegue Lawrence Otis Graham pointed
out the other day, African American candidates have consisitantly overpolled and underperformed in comparison
eg Tom Bradley in California, Harold Ford in Tennesee.
The “race” factor may be more of a lingering doubt on the
part of some democrats that although they would have no
problem voting for an African American President, they are
uncertain whether middle America would be able to..ie
the polls overstate the actual support black candidates
have…I on the other hand believe that in Obama’s
case, the voters of New Hampshire, looking at the supposed
double digit lead he had going into the primary, decided
that, maybe he did not measure up in terms of experience
to Hillary Clinton, and that annointing him the nominee
which winning the New Hampshire Primary would have done
was a little pre-mature..and an honor that the democrats
of New Hampshire would just as soon decline for the time
being to allow the campaigns to play out ..after all its
only a few more weeks till super tuesday so why short
cut the process…

]]> By: WaltTrombone http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/09/about-all-those-pre-primary-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-27121 WaltTrombone Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:20:42 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/09/about-all-those-pre-primary-polls/#comment-27121 I only pay attention to polls a little bit. Hey, the exit polls called 2004 for Kerry, and look how that turned out... I only pay attention to polls a little bit. Hey, the exit polls called 2004 for Kerry, and look how that turned out…

]]> By: Ethan Edwards http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/09/about-all-those-pre-primary-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-27120 Ethan Edwards Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:01:13 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/09/about-all-those-pre-primary-polls/#comment-27120 The Marist statement is like a doctor explaining an operation after the patient has died. But if they knew what they were doing in the first place, this wouldn't have happened. No talking head, no pollster or pundit should be given the time of day with their opinions. They are not credible. A group of winos in a drunk tank could have done just as well as they did last night. The Marist statement is like a doctor explaining
an operation after the patient has died.

But if they knew what they were doing in the first
place, this wouldn’t have happened.

No talking head, no pollster or pundit should
be given the time of day with their opinions.
They are not credible.

A group of winos in a drunk tank could have
done just as well as they did last night.

]]> By: RJ http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/09/about-all-those-pre-primary-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-27119 RJ Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:29:58 +0000 http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/01/09/about-all-those-pre-primary-polls/#comment-27119 The truth of the matter is Hillary supporters back her quietly but do not want to argue with the anti-Hillary crowd. The anti-Hillary crowd is loud and annoying and people would rather not deal with them and let their vote speak for them. When Hillary first ran for the United States Senate I helped work the train station and I got what the results never showed. People were supporting her but did not want to confront the opposition. At work I see and hear the same thing, the Hillary supporters do talk about it or preach it, they just go out and do it. Those who dislike Hillary act as if you are committing a crime if you say you support her, that is why the polls do not accurately reflect Hillary’s true numbers. In happened in her race against Fazio and it is happening again. Hillary will win the Democratic nomination and the people who vote for her will let their voice be heard behind the voting curtain. The truth of the matter is Hillary supporters back her quietly but do not want to argue with the anti-Hillary crowd. The anti-Hillary crowd is loud and annoying and people would rather not deal with them and let their vote speak for them. When Hillary first ran for the United States Senate I helped work the train station and I got what the results never showed. People were supporting her but did not want to confront the opposition. At work I see and hear the same thing, the Hillary supporters do talk about it or preach it, they just go out and do it. Those who dislike Hillary act as if you are committing a crime if you say you support her, that is why the polls do not accurately reflect Hillary’s true numbers. In happened in her race against Fazio and it is happening again. Hillary will win the Democratic nomination and the people who vote for her will let their voice be heard behind the voting curtain.

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