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Twelve years ago today

Posted by: Liz Anderson - Posted in Hillary Clinton on Mar 25, 2008

Via Brian Tumulty:The last two days Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign has had to address two reports – one by the Washington Post reporter and another by a CBS-TV – by reporters who accompanied her on her March 2006 trip to Bosnia as first lady that disputed her recent account of arriving at the airport under a threat of sniper fire.Clinton told an audience last week the airport arrival ceremony was canceled because of the imminent danger, but CBS has released video showing her recollection was wrong.”I’ve talked about this many times that we were, you know, very much told by the Secret Service and the military that we were going into a war zone,’’ Clinton explained at a press conference earlier today. “And that we had to be conscious of that. I was the first, first lady taken into a war zone since Eleanor Roosevelt. And you know, I think that the military and Secret Service did a terrific job. But we certainly did take precautions. There is no doubt about that. And I did remember that very clearly. But I did make a mistake talking about it the last time and recently.’‘Here’s a video of the visit as reported by CBS in 1996:

Here’s the CBS report aired this week:

 
 
 
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20 Responses to “Twelve years ago today”


  1. the consultant

    this is why Hillary is not going to be president..the
    incident never occurred…she made it up out of whole
    cloth…she and her husband are used to hyping their
    own personal experiences to get a political bounce..
    but this time she got nailed..not only was she not
    in any danger there is video footage of her being
    greated in bosnia by an 8 year old…Mispoke is how
    she characterized it..mispoke?..how about lied?

  2. ed

    She lied all right. And, for some reason, this article does not mention the “sniper-fire” and “running and ducking” to the cars as she did her original reconstruction of the incident.

  3. ed

    Negate my previous post. The article has been revised.

  4. Zeppo Marx

    She didn’t mis-speak. That was the third time she said it in recent weeks. It was a deliberate lie all three times.

  5. L. mack

    Mr Edelman, on your March 18th post on the Yonkers Tribune Blog, you posted that you thought Obama will bot carry Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, New Jersey, and you thought Mccain will carry those states
    Arent those states Democratic strongholds?
    Did Obama’s reverend as you wrote really call America the KKK?
    Did the reverend really honor Louis Farakhan and did he call Judaism a gutter religion.
    I just want to confirm this info. Thank You

  6. L. mack

    correction. I apologize.

    Will not carry Florida, pennsylvanis, Ohio, New Jersey

  7. L. mack

    oops, sorry again.

    Pennsylvania

  8. the consultant

    Mr Mack ..thanks for the question…with regard to the
    reverend he is on record calling the USA the KKK of A
    His church gave an acheivement award to Farakhan
    and Farakhan not wright called judiasm “a gutter religion”
    Wright also by the way accusd the US of being responsile
    for the HIV virus and also said the US deserved what it
    got on 9/11.Based on the fact that those statments and the fact that Obama did not ever leave the church for 20 years
    will be issues for the republicans in the fall my sense is
    that states with large jewish voting populations like
    florida pa, and new jersey, and also states with large
    white middle class working voters like Ohio
    and texas will be turned off by Obama when the Republicans
    get through using the information in negative ads..I also
    think that no Senator who is viewed as having the most liberal votig recored in the senate can be elected tothe
    white house…..
    thanks for the question

  9. WaltTrombone

    There goes Mike, leaving out what McCain’s pet minister John Hagee says about Jews and Catholics. From the Washington Spectator…

    “McCain has never been tight with the nation’s evangelical community. While running for the Republican presidential nomination in 2000, he described Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson as “agents of intolerance.” When George W. Bush visited Bob Jones University in Greenville, South Carolina, in 2000, McCain was unforgiving. He assumed that the Christian university’s official position on the Roman Catholic Church—it is the “Great Whore of Babylon” and its Pope is “the Anti-Christ”—could be turned against Bush, along with Bob Jones U’s official ban on interracial dating.

    “If I had been invited to go to Bob Jones,” McCain said in 2000, “sure, I’d have gone. And I’d have told them ‘Get out of the 16th and into the 21st century. What you’re doing is racist and cruel.’ Instead, Governor Bush went there and never said a word. I would never ever do such a thing.”

    Bush beat McCain in South Carolina, with the support of the Christian right. Since then McCain has been ingratiating himself with the nation’s evangelicals. In 2006 he delivered the commencement speech at Liberty University, with the university’s founder Jerry Falwell at his side. McCain would go on to say that the Constitution defines the United States as a Christian nation. Somewhere along the way, he changed his religious affiliation from Episcopalian to Baptist.

    And now John Hagee.

    ...
    ISRAEL’S PROPHETIC ROLE—Hagee’s attitude toward Jews is peculiar. He loves them, but only so much and for so long. In his book Jerusalem Countdown: A Prelude to War, Hagee blames the Jews for the anti-Semitism that has dogged them for 5,000 years.

    “It was the disobedience and rebellion of the Jews, God’s chosen people, to their covenental responsibility to serve only the one true God, Jehovah, that gave rise to the opposition and persecution that they experienced beginning in Canaan and continuing to this very day,” he writes.

    Hagee claims that Jews are responsible for “birth[ing] the seed of anti-Semitism that would arise and bring destruction to them for centuries to come . . . it rises from the judgment of God upon his rebellious chosen people.”

    Nonetheless, these Jews must return to Israel—the Holocaust helped that along, attempts to create a Palestinian state are slowing it down—before the apocalyptic conflagration at Armageddon can take place. Then Christ can return. Those Jews who recognize Christ at his Second Coming as the Messiah will be saved, but most will perish. Some Pre-millennial Dispensationalists have calculated the precise number of Jews who will survive Armageddon, the Rapture and all that: 144,000; that is, 12,000 representatives of each tribe of Israel.

    Go figure.

    THE CATHOLIC QUESTION—Despite his protestations to the contrary, Hagee is also hard on Catholics. In a bizarre video clip posted online by Wisconsin law professor Ann Althouse, Hagee stands before an elaborate iconographic chart depicting the Christian cosmogony. At the End Times end of the timeline a slutty woman in a red dress rides a three-headed feline monster. In her hand the woman holds a Eucharistic chalice.

    Pointer in hand, Pastor Hagee elaborates: “This is the Great Whore of Revelation 17. This is the Anti-Christ system. This is the apostate Church,” he says. “In this cup, if you read it in the Book of Revelation, is the blood of the saints. This is talking principally about the blood of the Jewish people. Where? From the Crusades that happened back here. From the Spanish Inquisition. From the Holocaust. When Adolph Hitler came to power he said, ‘I’m not going to do anything in my lifetime that hasn’t been done by the Roman Church in the past 800 years. I’m only going to do it on a greater scale and more efficiently. . . .’”

    “God said, ‘I gave you the time to repent but you did not,’” he explains. “This false cult system that was born in Genesis 10 and progressed through Israel and became Baal worship, God said the day is going to come when I cause this beast to devour this apostate system. So you can say very clearly that while the church is in heaven, this false system is going to be devoured by the Anti-Christ.”

    Catholics take issue with that. As do some Jews, whose blood ends up in the chalice for what appears to be their own fault.

    All this would be harmless enough (perhaps) if confined to Rev. Hagee’s temple. But John Hagee has a constituency that extends beyond his congregation. He used that constituency to build a foreign-policy advocacy organization—Christians United for Israel (CUFI)—that is now pressing for a pre-emptive war with Iran. CUFI brought 4,500 End Times activists to Washington for its July 2006 inaugural event, followed by a day of lobbying on the Hill.

    Hagee was straightforward in announcing his agenda: “The United States must join Israel in a pre-emptive military strike against Iran to fulfill God’s plan for both Israel and the West,” he said. He saw this step as “a biblically prophesied End Time confrontation . . . which will lead to the Rapture, Tribulation . . . and the Second Coming of Christ.”

    A REPUBLICAN RELIGION?—John McCain has been pressed to renounce Hagee. He cannot. Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam leader, whose unsolicited “endorsement” created a problem for Sen. Barack Obama, can preach religious hate. But he works on the fringe of American religion and politics and is an unlikely guest at anyone’s White House. The influence of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright—Obama’s longtime pastor who is cut from a different cloth than Farrakhan—doesn’t extend beyond the African-American community in Chicago. The Republican Party, on the other hand, is deeply invested in John Hagee and his followers.

    On the Sunday before the 2006 election, for example, Texas governor Rick Perry and sixty other candidates (almost all Republicans) stood before the altar at Cornerstone Church with Hagee, each candidate angling for an election-day bounce with evangelical voters.

    But John Hagee is bigger than Texas. In 2000 he was on presidential candidate George W. Bush’s “values team.” Since then the right wing of the Republican Party has responded to Pastor Hagee’s altar call. In 2002, Republican majority leader Tom DeLay was the keynote speaker at Hagee’s “Night to Honor Israel.”

  10. Wahoo

    McCain is not a personal friend of Hagee, didn’t not title his book with the name of a Hagee sermon, did not attend Hagee’s church for 20 years, was not married by Hagee and did not have Hagee baptize his children. There is a huge difference between Obama and Wright and McCain and Hagee.

    Jeremiah Wright’s hatred is there for all to see on YouTube. Indisputable, his own words spoken in his own church. Hatred, bile, outlandish, and lie after lie.

  11. Sara R

    Nice copyright violations there, Barrett. Typical liberal disregard of property rights. Just misappropriate somebody else’s intellectual property when it suits your needs. And lohud.com lets him get away with it. Hmmm….

  12. 7Curses

    mccain is unfit to serve. that leaves senator clinton or senator obama !

  13. the consultant

    I am well aware of Hagee said..Mc Cain is too now…
    the difference is that McCain didn’t sit silently for 20 years while Hagee ranted right in front of him..McCain
    didn’t subject his wife and children to the hatered
    and Hagee is just another lunatic from the evangelical
    right..who obviously I don’t approve of..but in the
    case of pastor wright..his comments were not just
    anti religion..they were anti american and that hits
    a whole different hot button

  14. WaltTrombone

    Indeed, Mike, but I don’t see McCain rushing to disassociate himself from Hagee, either. I agree that he’s a lunatic, but he’s McCain’s looney, and he SOUGHT his endorsement, as do quite a few other Republicans.

    Maybe McCain’s planning on dropping him right after he figures out just who it is we’re fighting against in Iraq. It seems that Lieberman has to keep reminding him…

  15. WaltTrombone

    AP now reporting that Wright has been getting death threats. Good job, guys, you’ve got the whackjobs all stirred up now. Hope you’re proud.

  16. Wahoo

    Walt, if what you say is true, why don’t you blame Wright? He is the one who said all those horrible things. Instead, you are blaming the many messengers. That’s wrong. You reap what you sow, and Wright did this all by himself.

  17. Wahoo

    I just read the AP story. I don’t know if there have been death threats or not. If they were, that’s very wrong. But it could be just general security concerns, or it could be Wright himself looking for an excuse to lay low. Wright isn’t the most believable person around. He lies a lot. And it would be just like him to try and turn himself into a sympathetic character.

    But it wouldn’t be a shock if some nut threatened him.

    But to blame the media for making Wright’s hatred public is also wrong, and is an attempt to deflect the blame from where it really belongs— on the hater Wright.

  18. WaltTrombone

    Nope, sorry, Ethan/Wahoo, nobody would have even heard of Wright if the right wing noise machine didn’t crank it out there every chance they had. So, we get to hear all about Obama’s preacher problem, and Hillary’s Bosnia trip, but barely a word about McCain’s ethical problems with lobbyists, nor his whackjob preacher, nor the latest,...

    McCain filed for public campaign financing limits under his signature bill, McCain-Feingold.This limits him to spending $54M through the primary season. According to FEC reports, filed by McCain himself, his spending is at $58M and counting, putting himself in violation of the very law he wrote. (Now, you may ask yourself, to borrow a phrase, isn’t the primary season over? He’s the only GOP’er left! Well, Sparky, no, the primary season is over on July 12th, after the Nebraska primary. )

    Hypocrite much?

  19. the consultant

    So lets talk about the political effect of both Hagee
    and Wright…the voters in my judgment will condemn
    both..and rightfully so..but who will they believe is
    more attached to the candidate for president..obama
    or McCain. ie will middle class white swing voters
    hold it more against McCain or Obama…my judgement
    is that anti american sentiments will trump anti
    catholic and anti jewish sentiments…the former
    will not be tolerated..the latter has always
    been tolerated in some quarters as you know…
    ie you can hate your neighbor but never your
    country

  20. NoKoolAidThanks

    dee bulleeettttss!!! (holds his hands over his head as he runs for cover).....



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