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		<title>By: Margarito Robinett</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/04/17/figuring-out-who-will-challenge-john-hall/comment-page-2/#comment-51694</link>
		<dc:creator>Margarito Robinett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 03:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GradyZora is the funniest person on the show. This is my favorite show on tv! Thanks for posting this, I enjoyed reading it. I&#039;m adding your rss feed to my Google reader, keep up the good posts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GradyZora is the funniest person on the show. This is my favorite show on tv! Thanks for posting this, I enjoyed reading it. I&#8217;m adding your rss feed to my Google reader, keep up the good posts!</p>
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		<title>By: show me</title>
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		<dc:creator>show me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Truth says, â€œBall is sitting on over $200,000.â€ Please show me the proof of Ball having anywhere near $200,000. The last time Ball claimed he reached his goal of $100,000. when the records were checked it revealed that he lent his campaign almost $40,000. to reach his goal and he had an outstanding balance due of $52,000., which left Ball with approximately $8,000. Ball is a fraud and everyone knows it.

Hopefully the Republican Committee in Putnam County will have the balls (pun intended) to not give Greg Ball the Republican line and allow a well rounded candidate to surface and represent the district. 

Ball still has not answered the question about his military record as to why he was either released or why he departed early. Ball will have to answer this question prior to this next election cycle, Ball will not escape by running from this question, this question will get answered. The facts will come out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Truth says, â€œBall is sitting on over $200,000.â€ Please show me the proof of Ball having anywhere near $200,000. The last time Ball claimed he reached his goal of $100,000. when the records were checked it revealed that he lent his campaign almost $40,000. to reach his goal and he had an outstanding balance due of $52,000., which left Ball with approximately $8,000. Ball is a fraud and everyone knows it.</p>
<p>Hopefully the Republican Committee in Putnam County will have the balls (pun intended) to not give Greg Ball the Republican line and allow a well rounded candidate to surface and represent the district. </p>
<p>Ball still has not answered the question about his military record as to why he was either released or why he departed early. Ball will have to answer this question prior to this next election cycle, Ball will not escape by running from this question, this question will get answered. The facts will come out.</p>
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		<title>By: The Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ball has always maintained a residence in Putnam Lake (for three years) and has lived there. He never sold his home. He hasn&#039;t lived in his hometown of Pawling since he was 18, when he left to serve in the U.S. military. Anyone can check this info at the board of elections.

Amazing how many people feel the need to talk about Ball constantly?Is it fear, or do you all have a hidden crush? Does Paul Johnson and Echkardt secretly fantasize about Ball?

Do you guys think if you post and lie enough it will eventually become true? The local papers bashed Ball for over a year and he won with 70%+. He is sitting on over $200k and has favorables higher than anyone but Leibell and is neck and neck with him, and above when you compare on issues.

Maybe you can all hope the tooth fairy makes Ball, the only guy fighting the machine, disappear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ball has always maintained a residence in Putnam Lake (for three years) and has lived there. He never sold his home. He hasn&#8217;t lived in his hometown of Pawling since he was 18, when he left to serve in the U.S. military. Anyone can check this info at the board of elections.</p>
<p>Amazing how many people feel the need to talk about Ball constantly?Is it fear, or do you all have a hidden crush? Does Paul Johnson and Echkardt secretly fantasize about Ball?</p>
<p>Do you guys think if you post and lie enough it will eventually become true? The local papers bashed Ball for over a year and he won with 70%+. He is sitting on over $200k and has favorables higher than anyone but Leibell and is neck and neck with him, and above when you compare on issues.</p>
<p>Maybe you can all hope the tooth fairy makes Ball, the only guy fighting the machine, disappear?</p>
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		<title>By: Sara R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like tax cuts are responsible for our budget woes. DUH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like tax cuts are responsible for our budget woes. DUH!</p>
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		<title>By: WaltTrombone</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/04/17/figuring-out-who-will-challenge-john-hall/comment-page-2/#comment-31752</link>
		<dc:creator>WaltTrombone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In tune with the everyday voter,&quot; as long as the everyday voter is one that wants tax cuts even when the budget goes more into the red every minute, and is one that is totally delusional about how great the war in Iraq is going. (Gallup has a new poll with 63% of the US public disapproving of the war.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In tune with the everyday voter,&#8221; as long as the everyday voter is one that wants tax cuts even when the budget goes more into the red every minute, and is one that is totally delusional about how great the war in Iraq is going. (Gallup has a new poll with 63% of the US public disapproving of the war.)</p>
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		<title>By: Fourthandgoal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fourthandgoal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lalor will beat Oros. He&#039;s in tune with the everyday voter, and that&#039;s what people will go after.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lalor will beat Oros. He&#8217;s in tune with the everyday voter, and that&#8217;s what people will go after.</p>
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		<title>By: the consultant</title>
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		<dc:creator>the consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim I have run some key races in this county over the past
30 years...including the Di FIore race as a Republican
against a 100,000 registered democratic edge, Lalor will
have to primary Oros if oros gets the party endorsement
does he have the money to do that...and without the
parties endorsement he will have a tough time convincing
both the ind and conservative parties to support him
that makes it a whole different ballgame...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim I have run some key races in this county over the past<br />
30 years&#8230;including the Di FIore race as a Republican<br />
against a 100,000 registered democratic edge, Lalor will<br />
have to primary Oros if oros gets the party endorsement<br />
does he have the money to do that&#8230;and without the<br />
parties endorsement he will have a tough time convincing<br />
both the ind and conservative parties to support him<br />
that makes it a whole different ballgame&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: STOP</title>
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		<dc:creator>STOP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

Did you run some races way back in the 1980&#039;s for some Westchester people? The Mayor of Yonkers and also against Gordon Burrows? I remember the name as an up and coming political consultant.

We&#039;re kidding ourselves if we think Lalor won&#039;t be a factor in this race. Oros represents what was----Lalor I believe represents what can be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>Did you run some races way back in the 1980&#8217;s for some Westchester people? The Mayor of Yonkers and also against Gordon Burrows? I remember the name as an up and coming political consultant.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re kidding ourselves if we think Lalor won&#8217;t be a factor in this race. Oros represents what was&#8212;&#8212;Lalor I believe represents what can be.</p>
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		<title>By: the consultant</title>
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		<dc:creator>the consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian your political point is well taken...only a republican
that is perceived as conservative on crime and taxes
but otherwise moderate is capable of winning state wide
elections...now...it is true that in the past someone
like D&#039;Amato could win being pro life..but that didn&#039;t last
the problem now is that there is a perception that in order
to win you have to have both the republican and conservative
lines (and in some areas the INd line as well)..so instead
of fighting it out in the Republican Party for the nomination and then letting the conservative party decide
whether to cross endorse..candidates first, check with
the conservative party to see if their candidacies are
&quot;acceptable&quot; and the litmus test is always pro life
pro gun anti gay...so that basically eliminates the 
republican before he gets started....a la Faso, and
Spencer...although both were not good candidates
in their own rights for different reasons..nevertheless
as you will recall ed cox was eliminated as was bill weld</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian your political point is well taken&#8230;only a republican<br />
that is perceived as conservative on crime and taxes<br />
but otherwise moderate is capable of winning state wide<br />
elections&#8230;now&#8230;it is true that in the past someone<br />
like D&#8217;Amato could win being pro life..but that didn&#8217;t last<br />
the problem now is that there is a perception that in order<br />
to win you have to have both the republican and conservative<br />
lines (and in some areas the INd line as well)..so instead<br />
of fighting it out in the Republican Party for the nomination and then letting the conservative party decide<br />
whether to cross endorse..candidates first, check with<br />
the conservative party to see if their candidacies are<br />
&#8220;acceptable&#8221; and the litmus test is always pro life<br />
pro gun anti gay&#8230;so that basically eliminates the <br />
republican before he gets started&#8230;.a la Faso, and<br />
Spencer&#8230;although both were not good candidates<br />
in their own rights for different reasons..nevertheless<br />
as you will recall ed cox was eliminated as was bill weld</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, when was the last time you won a statewide election in New York or nationwide?  Dole, did not lose b/c he wasn&#039;t conservative enough.  He lost b/c the economy was good and he failed to really identify any issue that Clinton was &quot;failing&quot; the country on.  If the Lewinsky scandal had been brought to light earlier, Dole would have won.  Dole, also seemed a bit out of touch and kept trying to take us back to the 1950&#039;s.  

The majority of the country is pro-choice but favors greater restrictions on abortion.  The majority of the country is in favor of traditional marriage but it is a delicate issue as no one wants to be seen as bigoted and younger voters tend to favor gay marriage. Everyone claims to be a fiscal conservative but there is disconnect between voters wanting low taxes and a lot of services i.e. &quot;don&#039;t tax me, tax the guy behind the tree&quot; type of attitude.  It is unclear whether voters would prefer to pay more taxes to get a balanced budget and to preserve social security or whether voters want less taxes, and are willing to curtail elements of the welfare state.  

I am not convinced by your position.  Usually, the GOP has won by nominating candidates who take certain conservative positions while disgarding others.  For example, Reagan was very pro-immigration.  Bush, won by pledging to be a &quot;compassionate conservative.&quot;  

I haven&#039;t seen anyone win by pledging to be a doctronaire conservative.  And you definitely can&#039;t win statewide by pledging to do so.  Pataki had it about right in 1992.  Tough on crime, fiscal responsibility, and not making social issues much of an issue.  Please note that is different from Mayor Bloomberg, who is considerably more liberal.  Giuliani, you could argue either way.  I believe Giuliani was about as conservative as you can be and still be electable in NYC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, when was the last time you won a statewide election in New York or nationwide?  Dole, did not lose b/c he wasn&#8217;t conservative enough.  He lost b/c the economy was good and he failed to really identify any issue that Clinton was &#8220;failing&#8221; the country on.  If the Lewinsky scandal had been brought to light earlier, Dole would have won.  Dole, also seemed a bit out of touch and kept trying to take us back to the 1950&#8217;s.  </p>
<p>The majority of the country is pro-choice but favors greater restrictions on abortion.  The majority of the country is in favor of traditional marriage but it is a delicate issue as no one wants to be seen as bigoted and younger voters tend to favor gay marriage. Everyone claims to be a fiscal conservative but there is disconnect between voters wanting low taxes and a lot of services i.e. &#8220;don&#8217;t tax me, tax the guy behind the tree&#8221; type of attitude.  It is unclear whether voters would prefer to pay more taxes to get a balanced budget and to preserve social security or whether voters want less taxes, and are willing to curtail elements of the welfare state.  </p>
<p>I am not convinced by your position.  Usually, the GOP has won by nominating candidates who take certain conservative positions while disgarding others.  For example, Reagan was very pro-immigration.  Bush, won by pledging to be a &#8220;compassionate conservative.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen anyone win by pledging to be a doctronaire conservative.  And you definitely can&#8217;t win statewide by pledging to do so.  Pataki had it about right in 1992.  Tough on crime, fiscal responsibility, and not making social issues much of an issue.  Please note that is different from Mayor Bloomberg, who is considerably more liberal.  Giuliani, you could argue either way.  I believe Giuliani was about as conservative as you can be and still be electable in NYC.</p>
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		<title>By: the consultant</title>
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		<dc:creator>the consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow now there is a personal attack which does not
belong in politics..his personal life is his own 
business....so his girlfriend through him out so what!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow now there is a personal attack which does not<br />
belong in politics..his personal life is his own <br />
business&#8230;.so his girlfriend through him out so what!</p>
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		<title>By: Glad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only good news on this Blog so far is that Ball is NOT going for congress ... so far.  He probably will try next time around but many people will know by then he is a power hungry person only interested in himself.  

Maybe it is a good thing that his girlfriend threw him out so he can learn for once, that you cant keep living off of other or the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only good news on this Blog so far is that Ball is NOT going for congress &#8230; so far.  He probably will try next time around but many people will know by then he is a power hungry person only interested in himself.  </p>
<p>Maybe it is a good thing that his girlfriend threw him out so he can learn for once, that you cant keep living off of other or the system.</p>
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		<title>By: the consultant</title>
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		<dc:creator>the consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all aboard&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all aboard>>>>></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Revere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Revere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Consultant is New York Central.  Sorry, that used to be a railroad. He&#039;s New York-centered. 

His referring to Ahhnold in Caleefornia is risky.  That state is as bad off as New York.  The middle class is fleeing there too.  They wouldn&#039;t need to hire Hollywood extras to re-do the film &quot;Exodus.&quot;  Just set up cameras on the roads leading east from California.

But I agree with the Consultant about the economy and not Iraq being the main issue in Hall&#039;s district.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Consultant is New York Central.  Sorry, that used to be a railroad. He&#8217;s New York-centered. </p>
<p>His referring to Ahhnold in Caleefornia is risky.  That state is as bad off as New York.  The middle class is fleeing there too.  They wouldn&#8217;t need to hire Hollywood extras to re-do the film &#8220;Exodus.&#8221;  Just set up cameras on the roads leading east from California.</p>
<p>But I agree with the Consultant about the economy and not Iraq being the main issue in Hall&#8217;s district.</p>
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		<title>By: the consultant</title>
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		<dc:creator>the consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok jim thanks for the insight..but there is a whole different paradigm going on which is not to say 
that your voters are less important..it is to say
that it will be the centrists that decide who the
next president will be...social issue will take
a back seat to economic issues...and social issues
will take a back seat to national security...and 
rembember Obama has the most liberal voting record
of any US senator...Dukakis, Kerry, Gore...
that is the way the democrats pick their candidates
John McCain will run to the right of center..and this
is a right of center nation...some of the above posters
keep saying that I am too liberal..but I am clearly
right of center...on fiscal policy, tax policy, national
security, etc...it is people like me that will
decide this election...ie taking myself out
of my role as a republican commentator ..how would
I vote...thats why I have never been wrong in
the presidential elections..with the exception of
my youthful exhuberance for one barry morris goldwater
and the &quot;conscience of a conservative&quot;///but the party
has gone much farther to the right on issues with
which goldwater was not enamored...gays guns and god
barry said you don&#039;t have to be straight to shoot straight
and then the evangelicals stepped in and the result
is the decimation of the party per se...however 
those who are independent still understand that 
Obama as articulate as he may be is a liberal&#039;s liberal
his relationships are with radicals..ayers, and wright
and his attitude is as described by my collegue
lawrence otis graham in &quot;our kind of people&quot;...
erudite...unconnected to the average guy...above
the rest...etc...he a preppy club member who should
by all rights be a republican ..but he is a liberal
from Chicago and they cannot win a general</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok jim thanks for the insight..but there is a whole different paradigm going on which is not to say <br />
that your voters are less important..it is to say<br />
that it will be the centrists that decide who the<br />
next president will be&#8230;social issue will take<br />
a back seat to economic issues&#8230;and social issues<br />
will take a back seat to national security&#8230;and <br />
rembember Obama has the most liberal voting record<br />
of any US senator&#8230;Dukakis, Kerry, Gore&#8230;<br />
that is the way the democrats pick their candidates<br />
John McCain will run to the right of center..and this<br />
is a right of center nation&#8230;some of the above posters<br />
keep saying that I am too liberal..but I am clearly<br />
right of center&#8230;on fiscal policy, tax policy, national<br />
security, etc&#8230;it is people like me that will<br />
decide this election&#8230;ie taking myself out<br />
of my role as a republican commentator ..how would<br />
I vote&#8230;thats why I have never been wrong in<br />
the presidential elections..with the exception of<br />
my youthful exhuberance for one barry morris goldwater<br />
and the &#8220;conscience of a conservative&#8221;///but the party<br />
has gone much farther to the right on issues with<br />
which goldwater was not enamored&#8230;gays guns and god<br />
barry said you don&#8217;t have to be straight to shoot straight<br />
and then the evangelicals stepped in and the result<br />
is the decimation of the party per se&#8230;however <br />
those who are independent still understand that <br />
Obama as articulate as he may be is a liberal&#8217;s liberal<br />
his relationships are with radicals..ayers, and wright<br />
and his attitude is as described by my collegue<br />
lawrence otis graham in &#8220;our kind of people&#8221;...<br />
erudite&#8230;unconnected to the average guy&#8230;above<br />
the rest&#8230;etc&#8230;he a preppy club member who should<br />
by all rights be a republican ..but he is a liberal<br />
from Chicago and they cannot win a general</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Kelly - NY Conservative Campaigns</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/04/17/figuring-out-who-will-challenge-john-hall/comment-page-2/#comment-31508</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Kelly - NY Conservative Campaigns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Above comment....

If you don&#039;t listen to the GOP base (Conservatives - 2A, Pro-Lifers, Traditional marriage, Fiscal, etc) wing you will become another Bob Dole or George Bush the first....YOU LOSE the race.

I have been on target with many in the field and this is how the game is played.  This is major league politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Above comment&#8230;.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t listen to the GOP base (Conservatives &#8211; 2A, Pro-Lifers, Traditional marriage, Fiscal, etc) wing you will become another Bob Dole or George Bush the first&#8230;.YOU LOSE the race.</p>
<p>I have been on target with many in the field and this is how the game is played.  This is major league politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Kelly - NY Conservative Campaigns</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/04/17/figuring-out-who-will-challenge-john-hall/comment-page-2/#comment-31507</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Kelly - NY Conservative Campaigns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To answer above comment...

Yes, Rudy was WAYYYYYYYY to LIBERAL for the national base.  
I told you all that many, many, many  months ago. 
Few were listening.

Remember, State &amp; National politics is way, way different then local - backyard politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer above comment&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, Rudy was WAYYYYYYYY to LIBERAL for the national base.  <br />
I told you all that many, many, many  months ago. <br />
Few were listening.</p>
<p>Remember, State &#038; National politics is way, way different then local &#8211; backyard politics.</p>
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		<title>By: the consultant</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/04/17/figuring-out-who-will-challenge-john-hall/comment-page-2/#comment-31504</link>
		<dc:creator>the consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read the same stuff..It is a major mistake to make
Iraq the issue in that congressional district..the economy
is the issue....you will not dislodge Hall by arguing
that the president was correct to take us to war
or that he did not cherry pick intelligence...you might
want to argue that we were wrong but we should not
precipitously pull out as that would be irresponsible
but lalor&#039;s approach is to militaristic for that district
and requires the same people that elected Hall..to
vote for Lalor which is to force them to admit they
were wrong two years ago..BIG MISTAKE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read the same stuff..It is a major mistake to make<br />
Iraq the issue in that congressional district..the economy<br />
is the issue&#8230;.you will not dislodge Hall by arguing<br />
that the president was correct to take us to war<br />
or that he did not cherry pick intelligence&#8230;you might<br />
want to argue that we were wrong but we should not<br />
precipitously pull out as that would be irresponsible<br />
but lalor&#8217;s approach is to militaristic for that district<br />
and requires the same people that elected Hall..to<br />
vote for Lalor which is to force them to admit they<br />
were wrong two years ago..BIG MISTAKE.</p>
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		<title>By: Undecided</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/04/17/figuring-out-who-will-challenge-john-hall/comment-page-2/#comment-31502</link>
		<dc:creator>Undecided</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lalor&#039;s Iraq Veterans for Congress group is on the front page of Wikipedia right now. It mentions his battles with &quot;George Soros&quot;. For a minute I thought it said &quot;George Oros&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lalor&#8217;s Iraq Veterans for Congress group is on the front page of Wikipedia right now. It mentions his battles with &#8220;George Soros&#8221;. For a minute I thought it said &#8220;George Oros&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Mann</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/04/17/figuring-out-who-will-challenge-john-hall/comment-page-2/#comment-31501</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudy proved he was too liberal for the national GOP. You&#039;re just blind to that because you&#039;re a liberal Rudy and Rockefeller Republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudy proved he was too liberal for the national GOP. You&#8217;re just blind to that because you&#8217;re a liberal Rudy and Rockefeller Republican.</p>
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		<title>By: the consultant</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/04/17/figuring-out-who-will-challenge-john-hall/comment-page-2/#comment-31500</link>
		<dc:creator>the consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sue..how about &quot;Arnold&quot; in california emphasis on the
fornia...his he too liberal as well..and I could go on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sue..how about &#8220;Arnold&#8221; in california emphasis on the<br />
fornia&#8230;his he too liberal as well..and I could go on</p>
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		<title>By: the consultant</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/04/17/figuring-out-who-will-challenge-john-hall/comment-page-2/#comment-31499</link>
		<dc:creator>the consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s a pretty interesting statement..how do you know
what my position is on any national issue..Is John McCain
too liberal for the party as well..how about Rudy..too
liberal..keep eliminating centrist republicans and you
won&#039;t be able to elect anyone...look at the new registration
figures in new york 300,000 new democrats 4100 new republicans...how about pa 200,000 new democrats 5000 new
republicans....I have been a Republican since 1964..
and understand economic and national security issues
and I won&#039;t be bullied by the conservative wing of the
party as to what constitutes a &quot;real&quot; republican...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s a pretty interesting statement..how do you know<br />
what my position is on any national issue..Is John McCain<br />
too liberal for the party as well..how about Rudy..too<br />
liberal..keep eliminating centrist republicans and you<br />
won&#8217;t be able to elect anyone&#8230;look at the new registration<br />
figures in new york 300,000 new democrats 4100 new republicans&#8230;how about pa 200,000 new democrats 5000 new<br />
republicans&#8230;.I have been a Republican since 1964..<br />
and understand economic and national security issues<br />
and I won&#8217;t be bullied by the conservative wing of the<br />
party as to what constitutes a &#8220;real&#8221; republican&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Didna</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/04/17/figuring-out-who-will-challenge-john-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-31498</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Didna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s be honest here, Mike. Anywhere else but in NYC and its immediate suburbs, you&#039;d be too liberal to fit comfortably within the GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be honest here, Mike. Anywhere else but in NYC and its immediate suburbs, you&#8217;d be too liberal to fit comfortably within the GOP.</p>
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		<title>By: the consultant</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/04/17/figuring-out-who-will-challenge-john-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-31492</link>
		<dc:creator>the consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian is a wise person....thanks for your fair an unbiased
remarks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian is a wise person&#8230;.thanks for your fair an unbiased<br />
remarks</p>
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		<title>By: the consultant</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/04/17/figuring-out-who-will-challenge-john-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-31490</link>
		<dc:creator>the consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its the hounders I like to aggravate.....there are very few
of them ..only republicans who resent the fact that over
the years the consultant has not caved in to the leaders
who come and go..and who bitch from time to time that
the consultant is too &quot;liberal&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its the hounders I like to aggravate&#8230;..there are very few<br />
of them ..only republicans who resent the fact that over<br />
the years the consultant has not caved in to the leaders<br />
who come and go..and who bitch from time to time that<br />
the consultant is too &#8220;liberal&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/04/17/figuring-out-who-will-challenge-john-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-31489</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;as far a I know mike never received a dime from the 
pirros or anyone connected to them.&quot;

This is a tangential issue but obviouslly the Consultant received both economic gain and notoriety from his dealings with the Pirros.  According to his own website, &quot;He served as Managing Attorney for the highly regarded law firm of Pirro and Monsell, which specialized in zoning planning and land use issues.&quot;  Given that Mr. Edelman&#039;s previous legal experience was as a prosecutor and not as a real estate attorney, one can infer that it was Mr. Edelman&#039;s name and connections and not his legal skills that led to this appointment.  It would seem likewise for his current position. 

As for defending the Pirros, I am sure he does so in part from friendship but also from self-interest.  He gets his name in the newspaper.  Whenever, someone from the NY Times wants a quote from a Westchester Republican, Mr. Edelman names almost inevitably shows up.  Moreover, if the Pirros political fortunes had turned around, Mr. Edelman would have benefited.  

That said there is no appearance of impropriety from any of Mr. Edelman&#039;s dealings with the Pirros.  Just to make that clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;as far a I know mike never received a dime from the <br />
pirros or anyone connected to them.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a tangential issue but obviouslly the Consultant received both economic gain and notoriety from his dealings with the Pirros.  According to his own website, &#8220;He served as Managing Attorney for the highly regarded law firm of Pirro and Monsell, which specialized in zoning planning and land use issues.&#8221;  Given that Mr. Edelman&#8217;s previous legal experience was as a prosecutor and not as a real estate attorney, one can infer that it was Mr. Edelman&#8217;s name and connections and not his legal skills that led to this appointment.  It would seem likewise for his current position. </p>
<p>As for defending the Pirros, I am sure he does so in part from friendship but also from self-interest.  He gets his name in the newspaper.  Whenever, someone from the NY Times wants a quote from a Westchester Republican, Mr. Edelman names almost inevitably shows up.  Moreover, if the Pirros political fortunes had turned around, Mr. Edelman would have benefited.  </p>
<p>That said there is no appearance of impropriety from any of Mr. Edelman&#8217;s dealings with the Pirros.  Just to make that clear.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/04/17/figuring-out-who-will-challenge-john-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-31488</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys (if there are two) who are hounding Edelman  ironically are  doing a good job of making Hall seem like a statesman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys (if there are two) who are hounding Edelman  ironically are  doing a good job of making Hall seem like a statesman.</p>
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		<title>By: vic</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/04/17/figuring-out-who-will-challenge-john-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-31486</link>
		<dc:creator>vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and why do you put mike in quotes?  It seems like you&#039;re saying &quot;This alleged, [dramatic use of air quotes] mike did not have a sweet heart deal.  Even, if you were not Mike Edelman, why would you put Mike in quotes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and why do you put mike in quotes?  It seems like you&#8217;re saying &#8220;This alleged, [dramatic use of air quotes] mike did not have a sweet heart deal.  Even, if you were not Mike Edelman, why would you put Mike in quotes?</p>
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		<title>By: vic</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/04/17/figuring-out-who-will-challenge-john-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-31485</link>
		<dc:creator>vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikey,

You&#039;re not really participating in a political blog, you&#039;re posting comments.  A lot of political commentators have their own blogs.  You have a comment section in someone else&#039;s blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikey,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not really participating in a political blog, you&#8217;re posting comments.  A lot of political commentators have their own blogs.  You have a comment section in someone else&#8217;s blog.</p>
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		<title>By: the consultant</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/04/17/figuring-out-who-will-challenge-john-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-31483</link>
		<dc:creator>the consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. how do you know who was the author of that particular
post? anyone can log on as &quot;the consultant&quot;

2. is it accurate...are panio and jeries now defunct?
3. why on earth would you save a post from 2 years ago
   from a political blog..you apparently don&#039;t like
   mike...or me...
4. why is it demeaning to participate in a blog
   every one of the political comnentators have
   one and participate..so who are you to judge
   whether its indicative of anything...
5. but more importantly..you are confusing a political
   attack with a personal attack ..do you know the
   difference...If I say someone is a bad person
   its personal..if I say someone is wrong politically
   for whatever reasons its not personal....
 
6.  the only personal attacks you reference are apparently
    the ones inaccurately accusing &quot;mike&quot; of getting
    a sweetheart deal from the pirros...why don&#039;t you
    tell us what the deal was...or can&#039;t you 
    accept the fact that someone would defend their
    friends of 30 years out of loyalty not money

7.  good luck...whomever you are..but you will notice
    that I am still doing news 12...and those who
    were screaming for my scalp..ms panio and mr
    jeries ..are gone from the political scene</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. how do you know who was the author of that particular<br />
post? anyone can log on as &#8220;the consultant&#8221;</p>
<p>2. is it accurate&#8230;are panio and jeries now defunct?<br />
3. why on earth would you save a post from 2 years ago</p>
<p>   from a political blog..you apparently don&#8217;t like<br />
   mike&#8230;or me&#8230;<br />
4. why is it demeaning to participate in a blog<br />
   every one of the political comnentators have<br />
   one and participate..so who are you to judge<br />
   whether its indicative of anything&#8230;<br />
5. but more importantly..you are confusing a political<br />
   attack with a personal attack ..do you know the<br />
   difference&#8230;If I say someone is a bad person<br />
   its personal..if I say someone is wrong politically<br />
   for whatever reasons its not personal&#8230;.</p>
<p>6.  the only personal attacks you reference are apparently</p>
<p>    the ones inaccurately accusing &#8220;mike&#8221; of getting<br />
    a sweetheart deal from the pirros&#8230;why don&#8217;t you<br />
    tell us what the deal was&#8230;or can&#8217;t you<br />
    accept the fact that someone would defend their<br />
    friends of 30 years out of loyalty not money</p>
<p>7.  good luck&#8230;whomever you are..but you will notice</p>
<p>    that I am still doing news 12&#8230;and those who<br />
    were screaming for my scalp..ms panio and mr<br />
    jeries ..are gone from the political scene</p>
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