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		<title>By: Adventure Tours</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adventure Tours</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every time i come here I am not dissapointed, nice post</description>
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		<title>By: Somers Republicam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Somers Republicam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth about GregBall 
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:11 pm 
&quot;...Legal Eagle, good points. One clarification: WE sent the letter. It was not anonymous at all. It went to voters via e-mail and a mailer. WE are not affiliated with the Degnan campaign. So john is correct in saying he didnâ€™t send it. Even though we go to Johns events etc we are not affiliated with his campaign....&quot;

Who are the WE in this posting?  As a voter, a flyer was received in the mail outlining a web site.  It did not say who the WE people were behind it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth about GregBall <br />
July 22nd, 2008 at 10:11 pm <br />
&#8221;...Legal Eagle, good points. One clarification: WE sent the letter. It was not anonymous at all. It went to voters via e-mail and a mailer. WE are not affiliated with the Degnan campaign. So john is correct in saying he didnâ€™t send it. Even though we go to Johns events etc we are not affiliated with his campaign&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who are the WE in this posting?  As a voter, a flyer was received in the mail outlining a web site.  It did not say who the WE people were behind it.</p>
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		<title>By: I did not serveI</title>
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		<dc:creator>I did not serveI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I regret to inform you all that I did not serve our great nation in uniform.  I truly apologize for that very immature mistake. So, having never served, I shall never, ever, post my opinion, cast a vote against, nor criticize a person who has served; those being, John Murtha, my apologies, sir. John Kerry, again, my sincerest apologies, and I most assuredly will never disparage our great umbrella holder to the generals, and &quot;courage cup&quot; polo player, ASSEMBLYMAN Greg Ball, the most Honorable of all. Whilst, my nephew (2nd tour Iraq still deployed) as his grand father before him, serves his duty for the duration, I will only express my opinion deep in the confines of small corners, for I AM NOT WORTHY to express my OPINION of my VETERAN elected OFFICIALS. Especially, those who have earned their wings! As did our current esteemed assemblyman, Mr. Ball, had his wings &quot;proudly pinned on his chest!&quot;â€¦.  To those not informed, one either receives wings from FLIGHT SCHOOL, or from one&#039;s first flight as a SIX YEAR OLD on a commercial airliner. Mr. Ball is the latter, and proves his wings every day spent in the district, and in his limited days in Albany. What a mistake was made two years ago. May that mistaken vote never be repeated. THINK BEFORE YO VOTE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I regret to inform you all that I did not serve our great nation in uniform.  I truly apologize for that very immature mistake. So, having never served, I shall never, ever, post my opinion, cast a vote against, nor criticize a person who has served; those being, John Murtha, my apologies, sir. John Kerry, again, my sincerest apologies, and I most assuredly will never disparage our great umbrella holder to the generals, and &#8220;courage cup&#8221; polo player, ASSEMBLYMAN Greg Ball, the most Honorable of all. Whilst, my nephew (2nd tour Iraq still deployed) as his grand father before him, serves his duty for the duration, I will only express my opinion deep in the confines of small corners, for I AM NOT WORTHY to express my OPINION of my VETERAN elected OFFICIALS. Especially, those who have earned their wings! As did our current esteemed assemblyman, Mr. Ball, had his wings &#8220;proudly pinned on his chest!&#8221;â€¦.  To those not informed, one either receives wings from FLIGHT SCHOOL, or from one&#8217;s first flight as a SIX YEAR OLD on a commercial airliner. Mr. Ball is the latter, and proves his wings every day spent in the district, and in his limited days in Albany. What a mistake was made two years ago. May that mistaken vote never be repeated. THINK BEFORE YO VOTE.</p>
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		<title>By: Lets Talk More About This</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lets Talk More About This</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we all having fun yet.</description>
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		<title>By: Truth about GregBall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth about GregBall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Legal Eagle, good points. One clarification: WE sent the letter. It was not anonymous at all. It went to voters via e-mail and a mailer. WE are not affiliated with the Degnan campaign. So john is correct in saying he didn&#039;t send it. Even though we go to Johns events etc we are not affiliated with his campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legal Eagle, good points. One clarification: WE sent the letter. It was not anonymous at all. It went to voters via e-mail and a mailer. WE are not affiliated with the Degnan campaign. So john is correct in saying he didn&#8217;t send it. Even though we go to Johns events etc we are not affiliated with his campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Legal Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing is clear from reading all these posts.  There are a group of veterans out there who will defend Ball just because he put on the uniform. That is understandable. They will not look beyond the facade to get to the meat of Greg&#039;s true being. Greg Wears his military service (as meaningless as it was - even he admits it)as his armour into battle, yet he can&#039;t hold a candle to any of the other veterans out there ... but he IS a Veteran.  There isn&#039;t a soul among us who would say they don&#039;t &quot;respect&quot; a person BECAUSE of his/her service to our great country.  Ball&#039;s mistake is that he tries to make more of it than it was.  Maybe John Degnan isn&#039;t the one to carry this message, but Ball raised it claiming Degnan had sent an &quot;anonymous&quot; letter castigating his military service.  This is the same claim Ball made against Assemblyman Stephens - the difference is Stephens chose (perhaps wrongly) NOT to engage Ball in the hoax.  Degnan has the guts to say &quot;I didn&#039;t send that letter, but while we are on the subject, how &#039;bout you explain why you didn&#039;t fulfill your contract ... during a time of war?&quot;  Fair question.  Don&#039;t think we&#039;ll ever get to the bottom of it because of military and privacy rules.  My guess is that in the coming weeks more will be revealed about Ball&#039;s time in the military, both IN and OUT of uniform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing is clear from reading all these posts.  There are a group of veterans out there who will defend Ball just because he put on the uniform. That is understandable. They will not look beyond the facade to get to the meat of Greg&#8217;s true being. Greg Wears his military service (as meaningless as it was &#8211; even he admits it)as his armour into battle, yet he can&#8217;t hold a candle to any of the other veterans out there &#8230; but he IS a Veteran.  There isn&#8217;t a soul among us who would say they don&#8217;t &#8220;respect&#8221; a person BECAUSE of his/her service to our great country.  Ball&#8217;s mistake is that he tries to make more of it than it was.  Maybe John Degnan isn&#8217;t the one to carry this message, but Ball raised it claiming Degnan had sent an &#8220;anonymous&#8221; letter castigating his military service.  This is the same claim Ball made against Assemblyman Stephens &#8211; the difference is Stephens chose (perhaps wrongly) NOT to engage Ball in the hoax.  Degnan has the guts to say &#8220;I didn&#8217;t send that letter, but while we are on the subject, how &#8216;bout you explain why you didn&#8217;t fulfill your contract &#8230; during a time of war?&#8221;  Fair question.  Don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll ever get to the bottom of it because of military and privacy rules.  My guess is that in the coming weeks more will be revealed about Ball&#8217;s time in the military, both IN and OUT of uniform.</p>
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		<title>By: Salaries Refunded?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salaries Refunded?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>7Curses, interesting to ask for refund of salaries Elected Official and staff.  More interesting that a staff member is also the campaign manager.  So get paid by the State of New York and do campaign work.  You may have come across a very good idea !!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7Curses, interesting to ask for refund of salaries Elected Official and staff.  More interesting that a staff member is also the campaign manager.  So get paid by the State of New York and do campaign work.  You may have come across a very good idea !!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: 7Curses</title>
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		<dc:creator>7Curses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>american taxpayers are due a refund for the taxpayer dollars spent educating the whacko incumbent from the 99th AD. additionally new york taxpayers should demand a refund for his salary and staff salaries since he was elected professing false pretenses. an embarrassment to the election district and humanity in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>american taxpayers are due a refund for the taxpayer dollars spent educating the whacko incumbent from the 99th AD. additionally new york taxpayers should demand a refund for his salary and staff salaries since he was elected professing false pretenses. an embarrassment to the election district and humanity in general.</p>
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		<title>By: samuel clemens</title>
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		<dc:creator>samuel clemens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian- Playing polo is the equivalent of chasing girls. A game of &quot;chuckerâ€™s&quot; anyone? How about we have another &quot;Courage Cup&quot; to raise money for Greg? Phony is as Phony does. For those who are unaware of the deceit this guy brings to public life, Google &quot;Courage Cup&quot; under the Washington Post or Albany Times Union. Using a charity front to raise money for political campaign. The man is a phony and remains a phony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian- Playing polo is the equivalent of chasing girls. A game of &#8220;chuckerâ€™s&#8221; anyone? How about we have another &#8220;Courage Cup&#8221; to raise money for Greg? Phony is as Phony does. For those who are unaware of the deceit this guy brings to public life, Google &#8220;Courage Cup&#8221; under the Washington Post or Albany Times Union. Using a charity front to raise money for political campaign. The man is a phony and remains a phony.</p>
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		<title>By: IamJane</title>
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		<dc:creator>IamJane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not questioned any part of Ball&#039;s military service other than when he says that men in boots were needed, he was transferred to reserve status.  I certainly agree there are far more pressing issues facing our Assembly District than Ball&#039;s military record.  But he is the one who put it out there, so he has to deal with questions people may ask.  My only question is, when the military needed men in boots to serve our country overseas, why did he not raise his hand and volunteer to go?  Like I said, I&#039;m sure Rummy wouldn&#039;t have turned him away.  I don&#039;t doubt he did work hard at the Air Force Academy.  I never said he didn&#039;t.  Just explain why you didn&#039;t volunteer to put on your boots when the military said it needed more men and women in them.  
Then tell me exactly how you are going to be effective in lowering my property taxes, lowering my energy costs and all the other things you are actually ABLE to do in Albany.  Those are the things that matter.  And after two years, I haven&#039;t seen much accomplished by Greg Ball on any of these fronts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not questioned any part of Ball&#8217;s military service other than when he says that men in boots were needed, he was transferred to reserve status.  I certainly agree there are far more pressing issues facing our Assembly District than Ball&#8217;s military record.  But he is the one who put it out there, so he has to deal with questions people may ask.  My only question is, when the military needed men in boots to serve our country overseas, why did he not raise his hand and volunteer to go?  Like I said, I&#8217;m sure Rummy wouldn&#8217;t have turned him away.  I don&#8217;t doubt he did work hard at the Air Force Academy.  I never said he didn&#8217;t.  Just explain why you didn&#8217;t volunteer to put on your boots when the military said it needed more men and women in them.  <br />
Then tell me exactly how you are going to be effective in lowering my property taxes, lowering my energy costs and all the other things you are actually ABLE to do in Albany.  Those are the things that matter.  And after two years, I haven&#8217;t seen much accomplished by Greg Ball on any of these fronts.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am just happy I do not live in that district, because it would be hard to vote.  I am a total outside observer (Mamaroneck), but the little I read about Ball is not impressive.  He is always battling someone and never seems to be governing.  Elected officials must work with others in a bipartisan manner and Ball has failed in that.   And his attacks on illegal immigrants go too far.

However, with that said, it now appears that Degnan and his supporters have crossed a very troubling line here.  You cannot criticize Ball if his story turns out to be true.  If the military told him to go into reserves and leave active duty and that his reserve time would fufill his 5 year commitment, then what choice did he have.  It was like he was ordered to leave by militaty and military personnel must follow lawful orders.

My message to Degnam, when the election started, I would have voted for him if I lived in district, but now, after this troubling attack, I would have to vote for Ball (reluctently).  At least to this voter, the Degnam attack has back-fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just happy I do not live in that district, because it would be hard to vote.  I am a total outside observer (Mamaroneck), but the little I read about Ball is not impressive.  He is always battling someone and never seems to be governing.  Elected officials must work with others in a bipartisan manner and Ball has failed in that.   And his attacks on illegal immigrants go too far.</p>
<p>However, with that said, it now appears that Degnan and his supporters have crossed a very troubling line here.  You cannot criticize Ball if his story turns out to be true.  If the military told him to go into reserves and leave active duty and that his reserve time would fufill his 5 year commitment, then what choice did he have.  It was like he was ordered to leave by militaty and military personnel must follow lawful orders.</p>
<p>My message to Degnam, when the election started, I would have voted for him if I lived in district, but now, after this troubling attack, I would have to vote for Ball (reluctently).  At least to this voter, the Degnam attack has back-fired.</p>
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		<title>By: the consultant</title>
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		<dc:creator>the consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said Ian..degan choose the wrong issue at the wrong
time for the wrong reasons</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said Ian..degan choose the wrong issue at the wrong<br />
time for the wrong reasons</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was merely mocking those who would denigrate McCain&#039;s service because he stayed at a place nicknamed the &quot;Hanoi Hilton&quot;, which is no Hilton.  

 As you concede, you have never served in the military and are denigrating a guy who went through basic training, a rigorous military and academic training at the academy, and then served for three and half years in the military while many men his age were partying three or four nights a week and chasing girls.  In return, those who went to state or private colleges had the luxury of a more laid-back experience (I know I did) and as such, had to pay full tuition.  Ball, got free tuition in return for a lot of hard work.      

Does that mean that Ball is a good assemblyman?  I have no idea.  Until I started on this blog, I knew nothing about him. 

However, I do know that his military record should be celebrated and not torn down.  People on this blog who are doing such really have no conception of how hard it is to be in the military regardless of whether one is fighting or not.  Regardless of Degnan&#039;s record, I cannot see how anyone would vote for him based on his campaignâ€™s primary tactic of attacking a military veteran&#039;s military record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was merely mocking those who would denigrate McCain&#8217;s service because he stayed at a place nicknamed the &#8220;Hanoi Hilton&#8221;, which is no Hilton.  </p>
<p> As you concede, you have never served in the military and are denigrating a guy who went through basic training, a rigorous military and academic training at the academy, and then served for three and half years in the military while many men his age were partying three or four nights a week and chasing girls.  In return, those who went to state or private colleges had the luxury of a more laid-back experience (I know I did) and as such, had to pay full tuition.  Ball, got free tuition in return for a lot of hard work.      </p>
<p>Does that mean that Ball is a good assemblyman?  I have no idea.  Until I started on this blog, I knew nothing about him. </p>
<p>However, I do know that his military record should be celebrated and not torn down.  People on this blog who are doing such really have no conception of how hard it is to be in the military regardless of whether one is fighting or not.  Regardless of Degnan&#8217;s record, I cannot see how anyone would vote for him based on his campaignâ€™s primary tactic of attacking a military veteran&#8217;s military record.</p>
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		<title>By: the consultant</title>
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		<dc:creator>the consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well folks I served in the military...the army reserves
four years...now you may ask why only four...when all
other units served 5...the answer does not appear on
my discharge...but the reason was that richard nixon
called the unit up during the mail strike..and accordingly
a year was lopped off..lucky for me..In greg&#039;s situation
it doesn&#039;t appear to be enough for the degnan supporters
that he has a discharge and that the airforce was 
doing some rearranging...greg has never claimed to be
a combat veteran...when you are in a political race
you need to criticize your opponent based on a substantive
issue not a technical issue..and here degnan is so 
angry at greg as are his supporters that cannot get
past the fact that greg was transferred to the reserves
for the air forces&#039; benefit not for his....
and that is exactly why degnan will not win this contest
He is acting like a child, throwing a tantrum as he did
in the video..watch his body langauge ..it is the
language of someone who has been shown to be telling
a lie..watch him at the end when he is booed....he
is essentially giving the finger to all in the audience
greg may be a little over the top on occasion but degnan
is by temperment not qualified to be in the assembly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well folks I served in the military&#8230;the army reserves<br />
four years&#8230;now you may ask why only four&#8230;when all<br />
other units served 5&#8230;the answer does not appear on<br />
my discharge&#8230;but the reason was that richard nixon<br />
called the unit up during the mail strike..and accordingly<br />
a year was lopped off..lucky for me..In greg&#8217;s situation<br />
it doesn&#8217;t appear to be enough for the degnan supporters<br />
that he has a discharge and that the airforce was <br />
doing some rearranging&#8230;greg has never claimed to be<br />
a combat veteran&#8230;when you are in a political race<br />
you need to criticize your opponent based on a substantive<br />
issue not a technical issue..and here degnan is so <br />
angry at greg as are his supporters that cannot get<br />
past the fact that greg was transferred to the reserves<br />
for the air forces&#8217; benefit not for his&#8230;.<br />
and that is exactly why degnan will not win this contest<br />
He is acting like a child, throwing a tantrum as he did<br />
in the video..watch his body langauge ..it is the<br />
language of someone who has been shown to be telling<br />
a lie..watch him at the end when he is booed&#8230;.he<br />
is essentially giving the finger to all in the audience<br />
greg may be a little over the top on occasion but degnan<br />
is by temperment not qualified to be in the assembly</p>
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		<title>By: SHAMBLES PARTY</title>
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		<dc:creator>SHAMBLES PARTY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the rate our country is going with the leadership of the republican President we are in a shambles.  Prices of EVERYTHING ARE OUT OF SITE.  Perhaps people will reflect on this and vote for the other party because they are upset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the rate our country is going with the leadership of the republican President we are in a shambles.  Prices of EVERYTHING ARE OUT OF SITE.  Perhaps people will reflect on this and vote for the other party because they are upset.</p>
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		<title>By: IamJane</title>
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		<dc:creator>IamJane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Ian, despite your disclaimer that you were being sarcastic, I feel compelled to respond.  And I will disclaim that No, I did not serve in the military, but have a great deal of respect for those that have.  I won&#039;t go into the long list of close friends and family that have all chosen to serve.  Your sarcastic comment has no place on this message board.  John McCain served honorably during a time when our nation was at war.  He was captured, tortured and beaten by the enemy, but his committment and devotion to our nation never wavered.  Greg Ball served in the military during a time that our nation was at war.  He admits in the video that our nation needed men in boots to go overseas.  Rather than transfer his service into reserve status, did he not raise his hand and offer to put on the boots that were needed?  He says he would fight and die for our country, yet when he was needed (by his own admission) he went to reserve status.  I don&#039;t think Rumsfeld would have turned away a young, willing soldier.  But Greg Ball did not put on his boots.  He walked away to reserve status.  John McCain put on his boots.  And he served admirably.  The comparisions are apples and oranges in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Ian, despite your disclaimer that you were being sarcastic, I feel compelled to respond.  And I will disclaim that No, I did not serve in the military, but have a great deal of respect for those that have.  I won&#8217;t go into the long list of close friends and family that have all chosen to serve.  Your sarcastic comment has no place on this message board.  John McCain served honorably during a time when our nation was at war.  He was captured, tortured and beaten by the enemy, but his committment and devotion to our nation never wavered.  Greg Ball served in the military during a time that our nation was at war.  He admits in the video that our nation needed men in boots to go overseas.  Rather than transfer his service into reserve status, did he not raise his hand and offer to put on the boots that were needed?  He says he would fight and die for our country, yet when he was needed (by his own admission) he went to reserve status.  I don&#8217;t think Rumsfeld would have turned away a young, willing soldier.  But Greg Ball did not put on his boots.  He walked away to reserve status.  John McCain put on his boots.  And he served admirably.  The comparisions are apples and oranges in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: samuel clemens</title>
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		<dc:creator>samuel clemens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To OIF Vet &amp; LocalKid,
This was very easy to Google. Here is the key bullet point of what a DD-214 indicates:

&quot;Separation information (type of separation, character of service, authority and reason for separation, separation and reenlistment eligibility codes)&quot; 

Under Ball&#039;s &quot;reason for seperation&quot; it does say &quot;Miscellaneous&quot;. What it does not say is &quot;FORCE REDUCTION&quot;.

I honor anyone&#039;s military service, but I also reserve the right to examine that record, if that person stands for public office and wraps themselves in their military record, ala John Kerry. I found John Kerry wanting as I do Greg Ball. Below please find what is easily available through a search engine on the topic of a DD-214.

DD Form 214, Discharge Papers and Separation Documents
 A Report of Separation is generally issued when a service member performs active duty or at least 90 consecutive days of active duty training. The Report of Separation contains information normally needed to verify military service for benefits, retirement, employment, and membership in veterans&#039; organizations. Information shown on the Report of Separation may include the service member&#039;s:
â€¢	Date and place of entry into active duty 
â€¢	Home address at time of entry 
â€¢	Date and place of release from active duty 
â€¢	Home address after separation 
â€¢	Last duty assignment and rank 
â€¢	Military job specialty 
â€¢	Military education 
â€¢	Decorations, medals, badges, citations, and campaign awards 
â€¢	Total creditable service 
â€¢	Foreign service credited 
â€¢	Separation information (type of separation, character of service, authority and reason for separation, separation and reenlistment eligibility codes)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To OIF Vet &#038; LocalKid,<br />
This was very easy to Google. Here is the key bullet point of what a DD-214 indicates:</p>
<p>&#8220;Separation information (type of separation, character of service, authority and reason for separation, separation and reenlistment eligibility codes)&#8221; </p>
<p>Under Ball&#8217;s &#8220;reason for seperation&#8221; it does say &#8220;Miscellaneous&#8221;. What it does not say is &#8220;FORCE REDUCTION&#8221;.</p>
<p>I honor anyone&#8217;s military service, but I also reserve the right to examine that record, if that person stands for public office and wraps themselves in their military record, ala John Kerry. I found John Kerry wanting as I do Greg Ball. Below please find what is easily available through a search engine on the topic of a DD-214.</p>
<p>DD Form 214, Discharge Papers and Separation Documents</p>
<p> A Report of Separation is generally issued when a service member performs active duty or at least 90 consecutive days of active duty training. The Report of Separation contains information normally needed to verify military service for benefits, retirement, employment, and membership in veterans&#8217; organizations. Information shown on the Report of Separation may include the service member&#8217;s:<br />
â€¢Date and place of entry into active duty <br />
â€¢Home address at time of entry <br />
â€¢Date and place of release from active duty <br />
â€¢Home address after separation <br />
â€¢Last duty assignment and rank <br />
â€¢Military job specialty <br />
â€¢Military education <br />
â€¢Decorations, medals, badges, citations, and campaign awards <br />
â€¢Total creditable service <br />
â€¢Foreign service credited <br />
â€¢Separation information (type of separation, character of service, authority and reason for separation, separation and reenlistment eligibility codes)</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am just wondering how many people who criticize Ball&#039;s military record on this blog actually served in the military and graduated from a prestigious military academy.  I am guessing the answer is none.  Spending four years at the Air Force Academy may be free but it is not exactly fun.  So he served close to four years instead of five.  Big deal!!!  Unless Degnan is planning to sign up for the military tomorrow, he should drop the subject and focus on the issues affecting the districtâ€™s residents.  

This race shouldn&#039;t turn on military experience but if it does, there is only candidate who has it, Ball.  Under Degnanâ€™s supporterâ€™s logic perhaps McCain is the next target since he only flew a plane and served his time in a â€œHiltonâ€ during the Vietnam War, while others were on the ground fighting.  In case, you are wondering that is sarcasm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just wondering how many people who criticize Ball&#8217;s military record on this blog actually served in the military and graduated from a prestigious military academy.  I am guessing the answer is none.  Spending four years at the Air Force Academy may be free but it is not exactly fun.  So he served close to four years instead of five.  Big deal!!!  Unless Degnan is planning to sign up for the military tomorrow, he should drop the subject and focus on the issues affecting the districtâ€™s residents.  </p>
<p>This race shouldn&#8217;t turn on military experience but if it does, there is only candidate who has it, Ball.  Under Degnanâ€™s supporterâ€™s logic perhaps McCain is the next target since he only flew a plane and served his time in a â€œHiltonâ€ during the Vietnam War, while others were on the ground fighting.  In case, you are wondering that is sarcasm.</p>
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		<title>By: Stop your ramble Somers Republican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop your ramble Somers Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First you call yourself a Somers Republican, ok Republican you do realize that when Ball wins the Primary Degnan will be running as a DEMOCRAT??? AND...
of course he looks upset a man WHO NEVER SERVED is questioning his service. And yes it says MISC that&#039;s b/c that&#039;s what the people who got who extended their contracts. But keep punching holes into the air and see how far that gets you. Ball is a much better canidate than the failed Brewster Mayor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First you call yourself a Somers Republican, ok Republican you do realize that when Ball wins the Primary Degnan will be running as a DEMOCRAT??? AND&#8230;<br />
of course he looks upset a man WHO NEVER SERVED is questioning his service. And yes it says MISC that&#8217;s b/c that&#8217;s what the people who got who extended their contracts. But keep punching holes into the air and see how far that gets you. Ball is a much better canidate than the failed Brewster Mayor.</p>
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		<title>By: Somers Republican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Somers Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watched the video....against better judgement.  It sounds like Ball has a group there to applaud for him.  This was a ball organized event? When Ball spoke no one interupted...when Mr. Degnan spoke, constant interup.  Ball looks and sounds really upset.

This guy has to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watched the video&#8230;.against better judgement.  It sounds like Ball has a group there to applaud for him.  This was a ball organized event? When Ball spoke no one interupted&#8230;when Mr. Degnan spoke, constant interup.  Ball looks and sounds really upset.</p>
<p>This guy has to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Re:</title>
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		<dc:creator>Re:</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the man/woman&#039;s point was that Ball and the other 13,200 people who were separated early due to reshaping (and actually lengthened their commitments in the reserve, mind you) also received a code of &quot;MISC&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the man/woman&#8217;s point was that Ball and the other 13,200 people who were separated early due to reshaping (and actually lengthened their commitments in the reserve, mind you) also received a code of &#8220;MISC&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Somers Republican</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/21/ball-degnan-battle-at-debate-over-military-records/comment-page-1/#comment-35843</link>
		<dc:creator>Somers Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this attention to the 99th run for assembly.  Ball must really eat this stuff up for attention.  Does it ever end?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this attention to the 99th run for assembly.  Ball must really eat this stuff up for attention.  Does it ever end?</p>
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		<title>By: IamJane</title>
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		<dc:creator>IamJane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OIF Vet.  Why don&#039;t you look in that little separation box that mention on Greg&#039;s DD-214 and you will see that, in fact, the separation code was indeed MISC.  If there are 149 OTHER codes to chose from, why did Greg only receive MISC?  So it may not have said &quot;honorable discharge miscellaneous reasons&quot; the DD-214 does say his separation code was MISC.  I&#039;ve read the 150 codes avaiable for that little box.  If I were Greg, I would have preferred something other than MISC.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OIF Vet.  Why don&#8217;t you look in that little separation box that mention on Greg&#8217;s DD-214 and you will see that, in fact, the separation code was indeed MISC.  If there are 149 OTHER codes to chose from, why did Greg only receive MISC?  So it may not have said &#8220;honorable discharge miscellaneous reasons&#8221; the DD-214 does say his separation code was MISC.  I&#8217;ve read the 150 codes avaiable for that little box.  If I were Greg, I would have preferred something other than MISC&#8230;....</p>
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		<title>By: General Lance Lord</title>
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		<dc:creator>General Lance Lord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reshaping the force never an easy task
March 13, 2003
By Gen. Lance Lord
Commander, Air Force Space Command

PETERSON AIR FORCE BASE, Colo. -- Over the next seven years, Air Force Space Command will trim 1,125 manpower positions. That is our share of the more than 13,200 reductions the Air Force must make before the end of the decade. Seven hundred and fifty-six of those cuts will come in the next year, so we are exploring proposals to implement the reductions. We will focus on outsourcing, reprogramming or delaying some manpower positions and eliminating lower-priority workload.

With all the rumors out there, I want to assure everyone in Air Force Space Command that this force reshaping is central to the needs of the Air Force, especially in strengthening sorely stressed career fields such as security forces and intelligence.

The command is taking a mission-oriented approach to the cuts it has been directed to make, rather than arbitrarily assigning reduction numbers to bases. We believe a â€œfair shareâ€ spread of the reduction to the field is counterproductive, so we will take a hard look at each mission area rather than taking a percentage of slots from each unit.

We still have not completely resolved what bases, or career fields, this reduction will come from in AFSPC. Those decisions should be finalized in the next month.

Increased operations tempo, workload and security requirements created by the war on terrorism, as well as budget constraints, have prompted the Air Force to review its authorizations to create a workforce better prepared to meet future challenges and missions. 

Todayâ€™s challenges have forced the Air Force to make tough decisions. Shaping the workforce to meet the future steady state of the Air Force that has evolved since Sept. 11 is our top priority. We must do this by making sure manpower authorizations do not exceed the funding Congress has given us.

We will work this issue extremely hard to get answers as soon as possible. We are fully committed to keeping the number of people affected as low as possible without negatively</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reshaping the force never an easy task<br />
March 13, 2003<br />
By Gen. Lance Lord<br />
Commander, Air Force Space Command</p>
<p>PETERSON AIR FORCE BASE, Colo.&#8212;Over the next seven years, Air Force Space Command will trim 1,125 manpower positions. That is our share of the more than 13,200 reductions the Air Force must make before the end of the decade. Seven hundred and fifty-six of those cuts will come in the next year, so we are exploring proposals to implement the reductions. We will focus on outsourcing, reprogramming or delaying some manpower positions and eliminating lower-priority workload.</p>
<p>With all the rumors out there, I want to assure everyone in Air Force Space Command that this force reshaping is central to the needs of the Air Force, especially in strengthening sorely stressed career fields such as security forces and intelligence.</p>
<p>The command is taking a mission-oriented approach to the cuts it has been directed to make, rather than arbitrarily assigning reduction numbers to bases. We believe a â€œfair shareâ€ spread of the reduction to the field is counterproductive, so we will take a hard look at each mission area rather than taking a percentage of slots from each unit.</p>
<p>We still have not completely resolved what bases, or career fields, this reduction will come from in AFSPC. Those decisions should be finalized in the next month.</p>
<p>Increased operations tempo, workload and security requirements created by the war on terrorism, as well as budget constraints, have prompted the Air Force to review its authorizations to create a workforce better prepared to meet future challenges and missions. </p>
<p>Todayâ€™s challenges have forced the Air Force to make tough decisions. Shaping the workforce to meet the future steady state of the Air Force that has evolved since Sept. 11 is our top priority. We must do this by making sure manpower authorizations do not exceed the funding Congress has given us.</p>
<p>We will work this issue extremely hard to get answers as soon as possible. We are fully committed to keeping the number of people affected as low as possible without negatively</p>
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		<title>By: Degnan needs a new staff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Degnan needs a new staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Three years, seven months&quot; is still better then zero, you pathetic coward. 

Air Force vet here, coming via Facebook. Look at the first four states that were restructured when Captain Ball left the military. As you can plainly see, 500 job losses. 

Alabama 
Maxwell AFB loses 177 enlisted, 20 officers.
Ft. Rucker loses 4 enlisted.
Air Force Logistics loses 5 enlisted, Air Force Doctrine Center loses 10 enlisted, Air Force Research Agency loses 9 enlisted.

Alaska
Clear AFS loses 39 military positions (transferred to the IRR)
Eielson AFB (354th Figther Wing) loses 38 military positions due to resizing, 13 pilots due to realignment, and 10 officers due to reduction in manpower. Other minor actions result in a loss of 7 military position.
Elmendorf AFB loses 77 military positions in the 3d Wing due to resizing. The 3d Engineers convert 28 enlisted positions to civilians. The 381st Intel loses five military authorizations. 

Arizona
David-Monthan AFB loses 15 military positions to reshaping. 
Luke AFB loses 75 military positions in the 56th Fighter Wing due to reshaping. The 56th Logistics loses 12.

Arkansas
Little Rock AFB - The 314th Airlift Wing loses 60 military positions due to reshaping, the 314th Logistics loses five.

I guess these veterans shirked their duties too, right? When you criticize Mr. Ball, you criticize the rest of us for &quot;breaking promises and not fulfilling their contracts&quot;, regardless of whether or not its your intent.

If Degnan had any brains or military service, he would be criticizing the Pentagon for eliminating soldiers they spent a ton of money to train, and not the soldiers themselves.

&quot;Three years, seven months&quot; is still better then zero, you pathetic coward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Three years, seven months&#8221; is still better then zero, you pathetic coward. </p>
<p>Air Force vet here, coming via Facebook. Look at the first four states that were restructured when Captain Ball left the military. As you can plainly see, 500 job losses. </p>
<p>Alabama <br />
Maxwell AFB loses 177 enlisted, 20 officers.<br />
Ft. Rucker loses 4 enlisted.<br />
Air Force Logistics loses 5 enlisted, Air Force Doctrine Center loses 10 enlisted, Air Force Research Agency loses 9 enlisted.</p>
<p>Alaska<br />
Clear AFS loses 39 military positions (transferred to the IRR)<br />
Eielson AFB (354th Figther Wing) loses 38 military positions due to resizing, 13 pilots due to realignment, and 10 officers due to reduction in manpower. Other minor actions result in a loss of 7 military position.<br />
Elmendorf AFB loses 77 military positions in the 3d Wing due to resizing. The 3d Engineers convert 28 enlisted positions to civilians. The 381st Intel loses five military authorizations. </p>
<p>Arizona<br />
David-Monthan AFB loses 15 military positions to reshaping. <br />
Luke AFB loses 75 military positions in the 56th Fighter Wing due to reshaping. The 56th Logistics loses 12.</p>
<p>Arkansas<br />
Little Rock AFB &#8211; The 314th Airlift Wing loses 60 military positions due to reshaping, the 314th Logistics loses five.</p>
<p>I guess these veterans shirked their duties too, right? When you criticize Mr. Ball, you criticize the rest of us for &#8220;breaking promises and not fulfilling their contracts&#8221;, regardless of whether or not its your intent.</p>
<p>If Degnan had any brains or military service, he would be criticizing the Pentagon for eliminating soldiers they spent a ton of money to train, and not the soldiers themselves.</p>
<p>&#8220;Three years, seven months&#8221; is still better then zero, you pathetic coward.</p>
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		<title>By: You can't trust those that never served</title>
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		<dc:creator>You can't trust those that never served</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almost 10,000 Air Force service members lost their job (See the website about) in during Donald Rumsfeld&#039;s Air Force restructing. 

I guess John Degnan thinks they &quot;their promises too&quot;. Way to insult the entire Air Force, you moron. It&#039;s even worse that you&#039;re a draft dodger yourself to boot.

Six officers and thirty-three people were given early retirements at Bolling AFB (Ball&#039;s post). 

Every other base lost jobs as well, military and civilian. Trying to single out Greg Ball for something that happened to people at every single Air Force base (in a DoD effort to save taxpayer dollars when they increased the size of the Army, mind you) as an election strategy is pure stupidity. 

To be expected from the Mayor who wanted a taxpayer funded social services and hiring center for illegals, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost 10,000 Air Force service members lost their job (See the website about) in during Donald Rumsfeld&#8217;s Air Force restructing. </p>
<p>I guess John Degnan thinks they &#8220;their promises too&#8221;. Way to insult the entire Air Force, you moron. It&#8217;s even worse that you&#8217;re a draft dodger yourself to boot.</p>
<p>Six officers and thirty-three people were given early retirements at Bolling AFB (Ball&#8217;s post). </p>
<p>Every other base lost jobs as well, military and civilian. Trying to single out Greg Ball for something that happened to people at every single Air Force base (in a DoD effort to save taxpayer dollars when they increased the size of the Army, mind you) as an election strategy is pure stupidity. </p>
<p>To be expected from the Mayor who wanted a taxpayer funded social services and hiring center for illegals, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: OIF Vet</title>
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		<dc:creator>OIF Vet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Localkid, you obviously never served in the military. You have every right to your opinions, but I earned mine, so they carry more weight.

I&#039;ll try and clue you in on something. DD 214&#039;s don&#039;t say &quot;Separated for miscellaneous reasons&quot;, anywhere, EVER.

When I came home from basic training, I was issued a DD-214. Type of Seperation: Release from Active Duty. Character of Service: Honorable. 

When I came home from AIT, I was issued a DD-214. Type of Seperation: Release from Active Duty. Character of Service: Honorable. 

When I came home from OIF I (that&#039;s Operation Iraqi Freedom), I was issued a DD-214. Type of Seperation: Release from Active Duty. Character of Service: Honorable. 

When I came home from OIF IV/V, I was issued a DD-214. Type of Seperation: Release from Active Duty. Character of Service: Honorable. 

Everyone who gets a DD-214 under honorable conditions would have be the same information in the &quot;Special Additional Information&quot; area. The only thing that might change is in block 26 &quot;SEPARATION CODE&quot; which is one of about 150 3-letter codes. 

As you already knew, Greg Ball&#039;s DD-214 does not say &quot;honorably discharged for miscellaneous reasons&quot; anywhere. You&#039;re as big a liar as John Degnan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Localkid, you obviously never served in the military. You have every right to your opinions, but I earned mine, so they carry more weight.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try and clue you in on something. DD 214&#8217;s don&#8217;t say &#8220;Separated for miscellaneous reasons&#8221;, anywhere, EVER.</p>
<p>When I came home from basic training, I was issued a DD-214. Type of Seperation: Release from Active Duty. Character of Service: Honorable. </p>
<p>When I came home from AIT, I was issued a DD-214. Type of Seperation: Release from Active Duty. Character of Service: Honorable. </p>
<p>When I came home from OIF I (that&#8217;s Operation Iraqi Freedom), I was issued a DD-214. Type of Seperation: Release from Active Duty. Character of Service: Honorable. </p>
<p>When I came home from OIF IV/V, I was issued a DD-214. Type of Seperation: Release from Active Duty. Character of Service: Honorable. </p>
<p>Everyone who gets a DD-214 under honorable conditions would have be the same information in the &#8220;Special Additional Information&#8221; area. The only thing that might change is in block 26 &#8220;SEPARATION CODE&#8221; which is one of about 150 3-letter codes. </p>
<p>As you already knew, Greg Ball&#8217;s DD-214 does not say &#8220;honorably discharged for miscellaneous reasons&#8221; anywhere. You&#8217;re as big a liar as John Degnan.</p>
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		<title>By: Irony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two strategies in play here are issues (Ball) and character (Degnan).

Ball uses issues to define himself and his opponent. He is pro life, pro gun, tough on crime, a fiscal conservative, and opposed to illegal immigration, as we all know by now. 

Ball constantly hits on Degnan&#039;s mismanagement of Brewster via issues: the failed taxpayer funded day laborer hiring site, the failed privately funded day laborer hiring site, the ID cards for illegal aliens, the spike in crime, refusing to arm village police officers, doubling his salary, tripling water/sewage taxes, and getting the village sued (where he is a co-defendant) in an expensive Federal Civil Rights lawsuit.

Degnan on the other hand, will not say a word about issues. Probably because his candidacy is being managed by handlers from boths ides of the aisle (Leibell&#039;s senate team as part of some non-compete agreement, and No. Westchester/Putnam Democrats). Instead, he chooses to focus on character. 

However, Degnan&#039;s outright lying and insulting the character of a veteran, using false information, when he never served, reading from a letter that he claims he never sent, tells more about the Mayor&#039;s character then anything else. Ironic.

It takes more character to raise your right hand and serve this country like Ball then Degnan will ever have. He is ill-suited to public office, and Ball&#039;s use of the issues to define the candidates will be the deciding factor in this race, no matter how much money Senator Leibell pours in to keep Mike Kaplowitz from running again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two strategies in play here are issues (Ball) and character (Degnan).</p>
<p>Ball uses issues to define himself and his opponent. He is pro life, pro gun, tough on crime, a fiscal conservative, and opposed to illegal immigration, as we all know by now. </p>
<p>Ball constantly hits on Degnan&#8217;s mismanagement of Brewster via issues: the failed taxpayer funded day laborer hiring site, the failed privately funded day laborer hiring site, the ID cards for illegal aliens, the spike in crime, refusing to arm village police officers, doubling his salary, tripling water/sewage taxes, and getting the village sued (where he is a co-defendant) in an expensive Federal Civil Rights lawsuit.</p>
<p>Degnan on the other hand, will not say a word about issues. Probably because his candidacy is being managed by handlers from boths ides of the aisle (Leibell&#8217;s senate team as part of some non-compete agreement, and No. Westchester/Putnam Democrats). Instead, he chooses to focus on character. </p>
<p>However, Degnan&#8217;s outright lying and insulting the character of a veteran, using false information, when he never served, reading from a letter that he claims he never sent, tells more about the Mayor&#8217;s character then anything else. Ironic.</p>
<p>It takes more character to raise your right hand and serve this country like Ball then Degnan will ever have. He is ill-suited to public office, and Ball&#8217;s use of the issues to define the candidates will be the deciding factor in this race, no matter how much money Senator Leibell pours in to keep Mike Kaplowitz from running again.</p>
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		<title>By: Localkid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Localkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ie think &quot;consultant&quot; misses the point.  True, Greg Ball can show a DD-214 that says he was &quot;honorably discharged for miscellaneous reasons.&quot; What that document DOESN&#039;T say is what that &quot;miscellaneous&quot; reason was.  Furthermore, all one has to do is go to the Air Force Academy website to learn about the &quot;contract&quot; or &quot;commitment&quot; that a cadet undertakes to serve in the military AFTER obtaining a tax payer paid education.  What I read was that you must commit five (5) years to active duty (more if you are a pilot) and three (3) years of reserve duty.  If you don&#039;t fulfill this commitment, you are liable to pay the government back for some or all of your education costs.  A little simple math tells me that Greg would have to serve a TOTAL of eight (8) years (active duty and reserve) which would bring him to 2009.  Greg now claims that, because he was allowed to skate on a portion of his &quot;active&quot; duty commitment that &quot;additional&quot; time was tacked on to his &quot;ready reserve&quot; commitment, yet he claims he is still &quot;done&quot; in 2009.  It doesn&#039;t seem like he had to extend his service to our Country as he suggests.  It is still eight (8) years no matter how you add it up.  Question to Greg.  Did you have to pay the United States of America back for any of your education costs because you skipped out on some of your &quot;active duty&quot; commitment?  If so, how much was it and who paid it for you?  Lastly, I find it so difficult to believe that the government would discharge you, a highly (and expensively) educated military professional while, at the same time, call up reservists who are well in their 40&#039;s to serve in a combat theater. But, then again, we have Mr. Ball as our Assemblymember, a leader in our government .... that says it all.  Greg Ball should be profusely apologizing to the people of the United States, not seeking an apology from John Degnan.  Its not even close, Degnan has my vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ie think &#8220;consultant&#8221; misses the point.  True, Greg Ball can show a DD-214 that says he was &#8220;honorably discharged for miscellaneous reasons.&#8221; What that document DOESN&#8217;T say is what that &#8220;miscellaneous&#8221; reason was.  Furthermore, all one has to do is go to the Air Force Academy website to learn about the &#8220;contract&#8221; or &#8220;commitment&#8221; that a cadet undertakes to serve in the military AFTER obtaining a tax payer paid education.  What I read was that you must commit five (5) years to active duty (more if you are a pilot) and three (3) years of reserve duty.  If you don&#8217;t fulfill this commitment, you are liable to pay the government back for some or all of your education costs.  A little simple math tells me that Greg would have to serve a TOTAL of eight (8) years (active duty and reserve) which would bring him to 2009.  Greg now claims that, because he was allowed to skate on a portion of his &#8220;active&#8221; duty commitment that &#8220;additional&#8221; time was tacked on to his &#8220;ready reserve&#8221; commitment, yet he claims he is still &#8220;done&#8221; in 2009.  It doesn&#8217;t seem like he had to extend his service to our Country as he suggests.  It is still eight (8) years no matter how you add it up.  Question to Greg.  Did you have to pay the United States of America back for any of your education costs because you skipped out on some of your &#8220;active duty&#8221; commitment?  If so, how much was it and who paid it for you?  Lastly, I find it so difficult to believe that the government would discharge you, a highly (and expensively) educated military professional while, at the same time, call up reservists who are well in their 40&#8217;s to serve in a combat theater. But, then again, we have Mr. Ball as our Assemblymember, a leader in our government &#8230;. that says it all.  Greg Ball should be profusely apologizing to the people of the United States, not seeking an apology from John Degnan.  Its not even close, Degnan has my vote.</p>
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		<title>By: the consultant's golf clubs</title>
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		<dc:creator>the consultant's golf clubs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you think that greg ball did not fulfill his committment
why don&#039;t you pick up a copy of the document he offered
in the video..and make a formal request of the air force
as to his status....then you will know the facts as they
may be rather then issuing an attack based on your opinion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you think that greg ball did not fulfill his committment<br />
why don&#8217;t you pick up a copy of the document he offered<br />
in the video..and make a formal request of the air force<br />
as to his status&#8230;.then you will know the facts as they<br />
may be rather then issuing an attack based on your opinion</p>
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