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		<title>By: Re:</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first poem was better.</description>
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		<title>By: Fallin Ball</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fallin Ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There once was a man named Ball.
Who thought he stood proud and tall.
   But once he got elected
   His constituents he then defected.
Now we are waiting for Ball to Fall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There once was a man named Ball.<br />
Who thought he stood proud and tall.</p>
<p>   But once he got elected<br />
   His constituents he then defected.<br />
Now we are waiting for Ball to Fall.</p>
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		<title>By: Humpty Degnan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Humpty Degnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flip floppin&#039; Degnan, sat on a wall
An on primary day he had a great fall
And all Vinny&#039;s money, and all Eckardt&#039;s men
Couldn&#039;t put the campaign together again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flip floppin&#8217; Degnan, sat on a wall<br />
An on primary day he had a great fall<br />
And all Vinny&#8217;s money, and all Eckardt&#8217;s men<br />
Couldn&#8217;t put the campaign together again</p>
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		<title>By: Ball promises everything, delivers nothing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ball promises everything, delivers nothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To: smartporpoise 
 
You might have misunderstood what I was trying to impart. Mia culpa. The societal changes that have occurred made Brewster and many of the towns &quot;Somers Republican&quot; mentions ripe for illegals to take root. No one regime is at fault, peopleâ€™s lifestyles and economics have changed from the 1950&#039;s and 1960&#039;s and the population has grown. Efficiency and low cost rule the day. Look at the mall that we have today in Danbury, CT and shopping centers in Carmel, NY. That is where the consumer shops in the area, not in downtown Brewster, there is no parking for one. I could go on.
 
But I would like to address what Somers Republican brought up:
I think that the project for Brewster&#039;s renewal that Ball proposed in the period before he was first elected was a ruse. It was a way to make him look legitimate as a real estate developer. The firm he was employed by, Exceed, was NEVER licensed to business in the state of New York. It had no projects in the area, etc. What Ball did was have some slick CAD software and built a mock up of what Brewster might look like. For someone with the software and some experience it is very easy to do. Do you see where I am going with this? Phony from the start. &quot;Look at me, I am successful and I bring fresh ideas!&quot; As soon as Ball was elected, Exceed&#039;s office in Pawling closed down. It provided a nice front for his run at political office. The success as a real estate developer was a manufactured persona, and it worked. Unfortunately, lies in politics work, as evidenced by Ball&#039;s ability to get elected in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To: smartporpoise </p>
<p>You might have misunderstood what I was trying to impart. Mia culpa. The societal changes that have occurred made Brewster and many of the towns &#8220;Somers Republican&#8221; mentions ripe for illegals to take root. No one regime is at fault, peopleâ€™s lifestyles and economics have changed from the 1950&#8217;s and 1960&#8217;s and the population has grown. Efficiency and low cost rule the day. Look at the mall that we have today in Danbury, CT and shopping centers in Carmel, NY. That is where the consumer shops in the area, not in downtown Brewster, there is no parking for one. I could go on.</p>
<p>But I would like to address what Somers Republican brought up:<br />
I think that the project for Brewster&#8217;s renewal that Ball proposed in the period before he was first elected was a ruse. It was a way to make him look legitimate as a real estate developer. The firm he was employed by, Exceed, was NEVER licensed to business in the state of New York. It had no projects in the area, etc. What Ball did was have some slick CAD software and built a mock up of what Brewster might look like. For someone with the software and some experience it is very easy to do. Do you see where I am going with this? Phony from the start. &#8220;Look at me, I am successful and I bring fresh ideas!&#8221; As soon as Ball was elected, Exceed&#8217;s office in Pawling closed down. It provided a nice front for his run at political office. The success as a real estate developer was a manufactured persona, and it worked. Unfortunately, lies in politics work, as evidenced by Ball&#8217;s ability to get elected in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Somers Republican</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/31/debating-debates/comment-page-2/#comment-36462</link>
		<dc:creator>Somers Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Illegal immigrants did not just pick Brewster.  As other poster said, ease of travel with trains...and that includes many towns up and down both the Harlem and Hudson River train towns.  For example, look at Mt. Kisco, they have had horrible experiences with illegal laborers worse than Brewster.  Patterson and Pawling, north of brewster, is also growing in illegal immigrant laborers.  Immigration and day laborer problems in not new, but becoming difficult for little towns to deal with.  Ball has jumped on Brewster as he worked for a company that was going to do urban renewal in the Village of Brewster and from what I can find out, if Ball was elected, he would work to get others of like mind elected than move on urban developement.  Lots of money to be made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illegal immigrants did not just pick Brewster.  As other poster said, ease of travel with trains&#8230;and that includes many towns up and down both the Harlem and Hudson River train towns.  For example, look at Mt. Kisco, they have had horrible experiences with illegal laborers worse than Brewster.  Patterson and Pawling, north of brewster, is also growing in illegal immigrant laborers.  Immigration and day laborer problems in not new, but becoming difficult for little towns to deal with.  Ball has jumped on Brewster as he worked for a company that was going to do urban renewal in the Village of Brewster and from what I can find out, if Ball was elected, he would work to get others of like mind elected than move on urban developement.  Lots of money to be made.</p>
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		<title>By: smartporpoise</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/31/debating-debates/comment-page-2/#comment-36452</link>
		<dc:creator>smartporpoise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like Brewster was sold out to developers, at the expense of, and ruining its once bucolic gifts, if I&#039;m reading you right. Why did they pick Brewster?   Are the taxes low in recompense?  Not that this is mitigates  everything, but at least That SHOULD be the case. Did previous political administrations have a nefarious hand in this?   Has illegal immigration exploded the cost of services, (schools, police, etc.?) or do most of the day laborers come in and leave by train at the end of the day?  What are the answers to these problems, say you got rid of Ball and his &quot;machine?&quot;  Do the majority of voters actually think that he can accomplish anything positive, or are they caught up simply in the  anti-immigration issue?  So long as he focuses on that single issue, do they not care a whit about his personality or his obfuscations?  If he puts so much focus on his military background, one would think that he would be fair game to be questioned on it and forced to come clean on it once and for all.  What will Degnan accomplish that Ball and his group can&#039;t, or is he simply pandering to the &quot;good conscience&quot; cabal with no plan other than status-quo?  Excuse the admitted ignorance inherent in all these questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Brewster was sold out to developers, at the expense of, and ruining its once bucolic gifts, if I&#8217;m reading you right. Why did they pick Brewster?   Are the taxes low in recompense?  Not that this is mitigates  everything, but at least That SHOULD be the case. Did previous political administrations have a nefarious hand in this?   Has illegal immigration exploded the cost of services, (schools, police, etc.?) or do most of the day laborers come in and leave by train at the end of the day?  What are the answers to these problems, say you got rid of Ball and his &#8220;machine?&#8221;  Do the majority of voters actually think that he can accomplish anything positive, or are they caught up simply in the  anti-immigration issue?  So long as he focuses on that single issue, do they not care a whit about his personality or his obfuscations?  If he puts so much focus on his military background, one would think that he would be fair game to be questioned on it and forced to come clean on it once and for all.  What will Degnan accomplish that Ball and his group can&#8217;t, or is he simply pandering to the &#8220;good conscience&#8221; cabal with no plan other than status-quo?  Excuse the admitted ignorance inherent in all these questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Ball promises everything, delivers nothing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ball promises everything, delivers nothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To: smartporpoise

Some of us believe that the ends do not justify the means. In Balls case, it goes to character. Dishonest behavior should not be rewarded in any walk of life, especially politics/public service. I may agree with him on the second amendment, or to some degree, on illegal immigration, but I put my state, and my country, above my party. I will take an honest Democrat over a dishonest Republican any day of the week. Ball has demonstrated he will stop at nothing to get what he wants for himself, he lies, distorts, and disparages honest hard working public servants. In his effort to further his vile political life, he has begun to assemble a political machine in the Town of Southeast. Anyone who opposes him, he calls &quot;corrupt&quot; or an &quot;old guard&quot;. Ball and his cronies blame the decline of the village of Brewster on his opponent John Degnan, the former mayor of short tenure. The village has been in decline for 30-40 years, as have many small towns across our nation. If one were to look critically at why these declines have occurred, one would have to come to the conclusion that it is the result of far reaching changes in our society. Main Street cannot compete with the shopping malls, big box retailers, and housing developments that have been built over the last 30 years or so. As to the illegal immigrants on the streets of Brewster, there exists one very large reason they have come, and that is the train station. Ease of transportation, at low cost, to jobsites, up and down the line, is highly attractive. In addition, let us not forget the cost of housing is far cheaper in suburban towns like Brewster, than to the south in Westchester or the city for that matter. If you have any more questions, fire away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To: smartporpoise</p>
<p>Some of us believe that the ends do not justify the means. In Balls case, it goes to character. Dishonest behavior should not be rewarded in any walk of life, especially politics/public service. I may agree with him on the second amendment, or to some degree, on illegal immigration, but I put my state, and my country, above my party. I will take an honest Democrat over a dishonest Republican any day of the week. Ball has demonstrated he will stop at nothing to get what he wants for himself, he lies, distorts, and disparages honest hard working public servants. In his effort to further his vile political life, he has begun to assemble a political machine in the Town of Southeast. Anyone who opposes him, he calls &#8220;corrupt&#8221; or an &#8220;old guard&#8221;. Ball and his cronies blame the decline of the village of Brewster on his opponent John Degnan, the former mayor of short tenure. The village has been in decline for 30-40 years, as have many small towns across our nation. If one were to look critically at why these declines have occurred, one would have to come to the conclusion that it is the result of far reaching changes in our society. Main Street cannot compete with the shopping malls, big box retailers, and housing developments that have been built over the last 30 years or so. As to the illegal immigrants on the streets of Brewster, there exists one very large reason they have come, and that is the train station. Ease of transportation, at low cost, to jobsites, up and down the line, is highly attractive. In addition, let us not forget the cost of housing is far cheaper in suburban towns like Brewster, than to the south in Westchester or the city for that matter. If you have any more questions, fire away.</p>
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		<title>By: Somers Republican</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/31/debating-debates/comment-page-2/#comment-36447</link>
		<dc:creator>Somers Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BALLS POLITICAL VIEWS?  THAT IS A MYSTERY TO MANY.  HE CHANGES HIS TALK DEPENDING ON WHO HE IS SPEAKING TOO.  ONE THING WE KNOW IS BALL IS POWER HUNGRY AND WANTS TO MOVE UP THE POLITICAL LADDER QUICKLY, REGARDLESS HOW HE DOES IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BALLS POLITICAL VIEWS?  THAT IS A MYSTERY TO MANY.  HE CHANGES HIS TALK DEPENDING ON WHO HE IS SPEAKING TOO.  ONE THING WE KNOW IS BALL IS POWER HUNGRY AND WANTS TO MOVE UP THE POLITICAL LADDER QUICKLY, REGARDLESS HOW HE DOES IT.</p>
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		<title>By: smartporpoise</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/31/debating-debates/comment-page-2/#comment-36446</link>
		<dc:creator>smartporpoise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 04:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m mystified why Ball is rarely attacked here for his political views;  seems always to be ad-hominems.  I never heard of this guy before this blog.  Y&#039;all have made him famous (or infamous) in this small world of type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m mystified why Ball is rarely attacked here for his political views;  seems always to be ad-hominems.  I never heard of this guy before this blog.  Y&#8217;all have made him famous (or infamous) in this small world of type.</p>
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		<title>By: Somers Republican</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/31/debating-debates/comment-page-2/#comment-36444</link>
		<dc:creator>Somers Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ball is manipulating the voting public and many people are blinded by Balls smooth talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ball is manipulating the voting public and many people are blinded by Balls smooth talk.</p>
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		<title>By: Ball promises everything, delivers nothing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ball promises everything, delivers nothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is how Ball works. He sends anonymous letters out questioning his service, and then plays the victim card. He did it in the primary against Will Stephens and it worked. He did it again recently against Degnan, and produced one of the &quot;letters&quot; at that sideshow Duh-bate in Putnam Lake. I think the voters in the know are now aware of this phony tactic. Best to stick to the issues, and, verifiably point out all his lies. He wrecked a highly effective assemblyman&#039;s career by his underhanded tactics and lies. Let&#039;s not let him get away with it again this campaign season.

Vote Degnan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is how Ball works. He sends anonymous letters out questioning his service, and then plays the victim card. He did it in the primary against Will Stephens and it worked. He did it again recently against Degnan, and produced one of the &#8220;letters&#8221; at that sideshow Duh-bate in Putnam Lake. I think the voters in the know are now aware of this phony tactic. Best to stick to the issues, and, verifiably point out all his lies. He wrecked a highly effective assemblyman&#8217;s career by his underhanded tactics and lies. Let&#8217;s not let him get away with it again this campaign season.</p>
<p>Vote Degnan!</p>
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		<title>By: Re:</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Putnam Times, it says he received an HONORABLE DISCHARGE. On the DD-214, in the same article, it confirms this.

The article raises no questions about Ball&#039;s service, and says nothing negative about it. Let&#039;s put this to rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Putnam Times, it says he received an HONORABLE DISCHARGE. On the DD-214, in the same article, it confirms this.</p>
<p>The article raises no questions about Ball&#8217;s service, and says nothing negative about it. Let&#8217;s put this to rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Re:</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read the DD-214 in the Putnam Press. Ball did not receive a General Discharge under honorable conditions. He receive an Honorable Discharge.

The reasons were miscellaneous/general, from what I have heard it was part of Rumsfeld&#039;s restructuring--nothing out of the ordinary. However that is not a General Discharge. Stop saying it is. It&#039;s getting to the point where you&#039;re making us look bad with the swiftboating.

I am voting for John Degnan, and the rest of your points are valid, but distorting the discharge is wrong. Please, take it from an OIF vet, you are hurting us more then you are helping us.

There is no need to lie and resort to negative attacks to get our guy elected. Ball is as negative as they come, lets not lower ourselves his level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the DD-214 in the Putnam Press. Ball did not receive a General Discharge under honorable conditions. He receive an Honorable Discharge.</p>
<p>The reasons were miscellaneous/general, from what I have heard it was part of Rumsfeld&#8217;s restructuring&#8212;nothing out of the ordinary. However that is not a General Discharge. Stop saying it is. It&#8217;s getting to the point where you&#8217;re making us look bad with the swiftboating.</p>
<p>I am voting for John Degnan, and the rest of your points are valid, but distorting the discharge is wrong. Please, take it from an OIF vet, you are hurting us more then you are helping us.</p>
<p>There is no need to lie and resort to negative attacks to get our guy elected. Ball is as negative as they come, lets not lower ourselves his level.</p>
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		<title>By: Failed Former Air Force 1st. LT.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Failed Former Air Force 1st. LT.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ball was discharged for MISCELLANEOUS REASONS.

Ball received a GENERAL DISCHARGE UNDER HONORABLE CONDITIONS.

A General discharge under HONORABLE CONDITIONS is not an HONORABLE DISCHARGE.

Ball did not provide his DD214 to the Putnam County Press. 

Ball did not honor his 5 year active duty commitment, no matter how hard you try to claim otherwise.

Ball was discharged suddenly.

Ball&#039;s service was right in the middle of a war, a war on two fronts, yet they let him go early.

Ball served his first year as a ROTC Recruiter at a small college, YET NOWHERE DOES HE EVER DIVULGE THIS. HE SIMPLY STATES HE WAS IN WASHINGTON DC AS A PROTOCOL OFFICER.

Why didn&#039;t Greg Ball want people to know he served at Saint Joseph&#039;s College?

Did something happen at Saint Joseph&#039;s College that he doesn&#039;t want people to know about?

Was he asked to leave Sint Joseph&#039;s College? If so, why?

Why was brand new 2nd LT. Ball permitted to serve his first year as a Recruiter?

How many of his fellow classmates were allowed to serve as recruiters?

Was someone trying to protect him? If so, why?

Why has Ball given 8 different reasons as to why he got out early? Why the embarassment?

REASONS FOR DISCHARGE: G-E-N-E-R-A-L.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ball was discharged for MISCELLANEOUS REASONS.</p>
<p>Ball received a GENERAL DISCHARGE UNDER HONORABLE CONDITIONS.</p>
<p>A General discharge under HONORABLE CONDITIONS is not an HONORABLE DISCHARGE.</p>
<p>Ball did not provide his DD214 to the Putnam County Press. </p>
<p>Ball did not honor his 5 year active duty commitment, no matter how hard you try to claim otherwise.</p>
<p>Ball was discharged suddenly.</p>
<p>Ball&#8217;s service was right in the middle of a war, a war on two fronts, yet they let him go early.</p>
<p>Ball served his first year as a ROTC Recruiter at a small college, YET NOWHERE DOES HE EVER DIVULGE THIS. HE SIMPLY STATES HE WAS IN WASHINGTON DC AS A PROTOCOL OFFICER.</p>
<p>Why didn&#8217;t Greg Ball want people to know he served at Saint Joseph&#8217;s College?</p>
<p>Did something happen at Saint Joseph&#8217;s College that he doesn&#8217;t want people to know about?</p>
<p>Was he asked to leave Sint Joseph&#8217;s College? If so, why?</p>
<p>Why was brand new 2nd LT. Ball permitted to serve his first year as a Recruiter?</p>
<p>How many of his fellow classmates were allowed to serve as recruiters?</p>
<p>Was someone trying to protect him? If so, why?</p>
<p>Why has Ball given 8 different reasons as to why he got out early? Why the embarassment?</p>
<p>REASONS FOR DISCHARGE: G-E-N-E-R-A-L.</p>
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		<title>By: Re:</title>
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		<dc:creator>Re:</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, Ball is a member of the American Legion. You can only join with an honorable separation.

You can&#039;t join AMVETS or the VFW with general, OTH, or dishonorable--if Ball had not received an honorable discharge, it would have been news a long time ago. This is not some new discovery, it&#039;s just confusion over the wording from a non-veteran.

But as a Ball-detractor/vet its still clear he was honorably discharged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, Ball is a member of the American Legion. You can only join with an honorable separation.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t join AMVETS or the VFW with general, OTH, or dishonorable&#8212;if Ball had not received an honorable discharge, it would have been news a long time ago. This is not some new discovery, it&#8217;s just confusion over the wording from a non-veteran.</p>
<p>But as a Ball-detractor/vet its still clear he was honorably discharged.</p>
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		<title>By: Re:</title>
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		<dc:creator>Re:</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the Putnam Press Piece. Ball gave them his DD-214, and that is a known anti-Ball paper so he can&#039;t be that embarrassed.

Ball did not receive a general discharge as the above poster claims.

He received an honorable discharge. The discharge code was MND, reasons for leaving were Miscellaneous/General.

This is not the same as a &quot;General discharge&quot;. 

As the consultant has previously pointed out John can only hurt himself by repeating the wrong information, and failed air force Lt. has the wrong information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the Putnam Press Piece. Ball gave them his DD-214, and that is a known anti-Ball paper so he can&#8217;t be that embarrassed.</p>
<p>Ball did not receive a general discharge as the above poster claims.</p>
<p>He received an honorable discharge. The discharge code was MND, reasons for leaving were Miscellaneous/General.</p>
<p>This is not the same as a &#8220;General discharge&#8221;. </p>
<p>As the consultant has previously pointed out John can only hurt himself by repeating the wrong information, and failed air force Lt. has the wrong information.</p>
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		<title>By: Failed Former Air Force 1st. LT.</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/31/debating-debates/comment-page-2/#comment-36430</link>
		<dc:creator>Failed Former Air Force 1st. LT.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s very clear why Ball to this day does not release his DD214, even in the face of all these questions. It was printed in the Putnam County Press. And it&#039;s there for all the world to see. It&#039;s no wonder he&#039;s embarassed. He only served 60% of his time, contrary to what he claimed. His service as a student in the Air Force Academy did not count toward his 5 year active duty commitment, contrary to what he claimed. His medals that he received aren&#039;t worthy of the Boy Scouts. In the Scouts at least the medals are earned. Two of the three medals awarded were gven to every single officer who happened to be on active duty. He did nothing to specifically earn it. The one that was directed to him, the one he touts foolishly at debates like the last one, was a medal for setting up a conference. SETTING UP A CONFERENCE, while we are fighting a war on two fronts. He should have declined the medal, but he knew that one day it would add to his political career.

As far as discharges go, he wasn&#039;t scheduled to get out. The reasons for leaving clearly state &quot;REASONS FOR LEAVING:  MISCELLANEOUS/General. The TYPE of discharge is General. It&#039;s a General Discharge under Honorable conditions. That means something is wrong with his service, seriously wrong. All veterans should look at their DD214 and see that their DD214&#039;s don&#039;t say that. It doesn&#039;t say MISCELLANEOUS where it asks why you got out of the military. 

Greg Ball could have avoided all this stuff by just coming out in the beginning and stating whatever problems he had in the Air Force. He&#039;s absolutely nuts if he thinks for one second that he&#039;s going to attack people the way he does, and not have his military service looked in to. If he uses the military as a basis of his entire persona, then we have a right to know everything about that service, especially if we paid for his education.

I have a very strong feeling that more will be coming out the closer we get to the Primary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s very clear why Ball to this day does not release his DD214, even in the face of all these questions. It was printed in the Putnam County Press. And it&#8217;s there for all the world to see. It&#8217;s no wonder he&#8217;s embarassed. He only served 60% of his time, contrary to what he claimed. His service as a student in the Air Force Academy did not count toward his 5 year active duty commitment, contrary to what he claimed. His medals that he received aren&#8217;t worthy of the Boy Scouts. In the Scouts at least the medals are earned. Two of the three medals awarded were gven to every single officer who happened to be on active duty. He did nothing to specifically earn it. The one that was directed to him, the one he touts foolishly at debates like the last one, was a medal for setting up a conference. SETTING UP A CONFERENCE, while we are fighting a war on two fronts. He should have declined the medal, but he knew that one day it would add to his political career.</p>
<p>As far as discharges go, he wasn&#8217;t scheduled to get out. The reasons for leaving clearly state &#8220;REASONS FOR LEAVING:  MISCELLANEOUS/General. The TYPE of discharge is General. It&#8217;s a General Discharge under Honorable conditions. That means something is wrong with his service, seriously wrong. All veterans should look at their DD214 and see that their DD214&#8217;s don&#8217;t say that. It doesn&#8217;t say MISCELLANEOUS where it asks why you got out of the military. </p>
<p>Greg Ball could have avoided all this stuff by just coming out in the beginning and stating whatever problems he had in the Air Force. He&#8217;s absolutely nuts if he thinks for one second that he&#8217;s going to attack people the way he does, and not have his military service looked in to. If he uses the military as a basis of his entire persona, then we have a right to know everything about that service, especially if we paid for his education.</p>
<p>I have a very strong feeling that more will be coming out the closer we get to the Primary.</p>
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		<title>By: Somers Republican</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/31/debating-debates/comment-page-2/#comment-36428</link>
		<dc:creator>Somers Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is General Discharge raising a red flag?  What are the usual reasons for discharge other than &#039;general&#039; ???  The more we read about Ball and the military, it is probably a good thing he is not out there defending our wonderful country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is General Discharge raising a red flag?  What are the usual reasons for discharge other than &#8216;general&#8217; ???  The more we read about Ball and the military, it is probably a good thing he is not out there defending our wonderful country.</p>
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		<title>By: ed1</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/31/debating-debates/comment-page-2/#comment-36426</link>
		<dc:creator>ed1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, I have been bored with this ongoing pro-anti Ball nonsense. But, my eyes lit up when I read the previous poster stating that Ball received a General Discharge Under Honorable Conditions.  This is shaky stuff.  If this is why he has been less than forthcoming about his military service, an enormous red flag has been raised in front of my eyes.  When I served in the military, this designation was anathema and embarrassing.  What&#039;s the truth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, I have been bored with this ongoing pro-anti Ball nonsense. But, my eyes lit up when I read the previous poster stating that Ball received a General Discharge Under Honorable Conditions.  This is shaky stuff.  If this is why he has been less than forthcoming about his military service, an enormous red flag has been raised in front of my eyes.  When I served in the military, this designation was anathema and embarrassing.  What&#8217;s the truth?</p>
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		<title>By: ed1</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/31/debating-debates/comment-page-2/#comment-36425</link>
		<dc:creator>ed1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>General Discharges are not good.  If this is true, he has some answering to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>General Discharges are not good.  If this is true, he has some answering to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Failed Former Air Force 1st. LT.</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/31/debating-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-36424</link>
		<dc:creator>Failed Former Air Force 1st. LT.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you happen to see Greg Ball&#039;s DD214? No wonder why he has refused to release it. It&#039;s an absolut disgrace. One look at it and you can see the guy was a weak sister, a skater, someone who conned his way along without any heavy lifting.

Greg Ball received a GENERAL DISCHARGE UNDER HONORABLE CONDITIONS. He never deployed to Iraq, while most everyone else was serving multiple deployments. How did Greg Ball avoid such service? And why would he even want to avoid such service in a time of war? Isn&#039;t that the place you feel the need to be in a time of war? Leading troops? Or scamming money out of Courage Cup?

The United States (translation: YOU, the TAXPAYER) really got cheated when it gave Ball a free scholarship to the Air Force Academy. A complete waste of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you happen to see Greg Ball&#8217;s DD214? No wonder why he has refused to release it. It&#8217;s an absolut disgrace. One look at it and you can see the guy was a weak sister, a skater, someone who conned his way along without any heavy lifting.</p>
<p>Greg Ball received a GENERAL DISCHARGE UNDER HONORABLE CONDITIONS. He never deployed to Iraq, while most everyone else was serving multiple deployments. How did Greg Ball avoid such service? And why would he even want to avoid such service in a time of war? Isn&#8217;t that the place you feel the need to be in a time of war? Leading troops? Or scamming money out of Courage Cup?</p>
<p>The United States (translation: YOU, the TAXPAYER) really got cheated when it gave Ball a free scholarship to the Air Force Academy. A complete waste of money.</p>
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		<title>By: jb</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/31/debating-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-36389</link>
		<dc:creator>jb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg Ball and Michael Rights are collectively destroying Southeast and Putnam County.
Greg Ball and Michael Rights are collectively destroying Southeast and Putnam County.
Greg Ball and Michael Rights are collectively destroying Southeast and Putnam County.
Greg Ball and Michael Rights are collectively destroying Southeast and Putnam County.
Greg Ball and Michael Rights are collectively destroying Southeast and Putnam County.
Greg Ball and Michael Rights are collectively destroying Southeast and Putnam County.

Need I say more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg Ball and Michael Rights are collectively destroying Southeast and Putnam County.<br />
Greg Ball and Michael Rights are collectively destroying Southeast and Putnam County.<br />
Greg Ball and Michael Rights are collectively destroying Southeast and Putnam County.<br />
Greg Ball and Michael Rights are collectively destroying Southeast and Putnam County.<br />
Greg Ball and Michael Rights are collectively destroying Southeast and Putnam County.<br />
Greg Ball and Michael Rights are collectively destroying Southeast and Putnam County.</p>
<p>Need I say more?</p>
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		<title>By: Ball promises everything, delivers nothing</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/31/debating-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-36368</link>
		<dc:creator>Ball promises everything, delivers nothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To: Follow the 10509 and findout 
So, you at least admit Ball&#039;s campaign literature is basically lies. &quot;17 pieces of legislation passed in first term&quot;. 


Even if the voters are foolish enough to re-elect Ball, he will continue to be ineffectual, and that is for one basic reason, he has alienated everyone in the legislature. If he can&#039;t work with people within his own party, how can you or anyone else expect him to get anything meaningful done. Itâ€™s common sense. Seniority through years spent in the legislature does not give power, the ability to work within and without your party is what brings responsibility, through key positions on committee&#039;s and assignments in the party leadership. Ball has an inability to forge relationships. He will remain a backbencher forever, because of his giant ego and lack of the foundation of trust one needs within the party. Will Stephens built that trust early in his legislative career, which is how he got to #2 in party leadership within 12 years. Ball could be there 30 and he would remain a backbencher.

Now fill us all in on your statement:
 &quot;Iâ€™d rather have an ineffectual backbencher then an empty suite whose just there to steer contracts to friends &amp; family members&quot; 

Care to name names? Care to make specific accusations with your name attached? 

Oh, and by the way, an ineffectual backbencher is by definition an &quot;empty suit&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To: Follow the 10509 and findout <br />
So, you at least admit Ball&#8217;s campaign literature is basically lies. &#8220;17 pieces of legislation passed in first term&#8221;. </p>
<p>Even if the voters are foolish enough to re-elect Ball, he will continue to be ineffectual, and that is for one basic reason, he has alienated everyone in the legislature. If he can&#8217;t work with people within his own party, how can you or anyone else expect him to get anything meaningful done. Itâ€™s common sense. Seniority through years spent in the legislature does not give power, the ability to work within and without your party is what brings responsibility, through key positions on committee&#8217;s and assignments in the party leadership. Ball has an inability to forge relationships. He will remain a backbencher forever, because of his giant ego and lack of the foundation of trust one needs within the party. Will Stephens built that trust early in his legislative career, which is how he got to #2 in party leadership within 12 years. Ball could be there 30 and he would remain a backbencher.</p>
<p>Now fill us all in on your statement:</p>
<p> &#8220;Iâ€™d rather have an ineffectual backbencher then an empty suite whose just there to steer contracts to friends &#038; family members&#8221; </p>
<p>Care to name names? Care to make specific accusations with your name attached? </p>
<p>Oh, and by the way, an ineffectual backbencher is by definition an &#8220;empty suit&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: be careful with LWV</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/31/debating-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-36365</link>
		<dc:creator>be careful with LWV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Putnam County League of Women Voters Debate could be a bad bet for John Degnan, this group was put together by two supporters of Greg Ball, Lori Ford and Jennifer Maher, both are in the Ball camp.  This could be another debate set up against Degnan,  Ball does have flunkies out there doing his dirty work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Putnam County League of Women Voters Debate could be a bad bet for John Degnan, this group was put together by two supporters of Greg Ball, Lori Ford and Jennifer Maher, both are in the Ball camp.  This could be another debate set up against Degnan,  Ball does have flunkies out there doing his dirty work.</p>
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		<title>By: rj</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/31/debating-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-36363</link>
		<dc:creator>rj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10509 is the group that most of us wingnuts come here from. I think he meant that you can match the timestamps here to there and see who everyone actually is (BILL, MATT, KEN)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10509 is the group that most of us wingnuts come here from. I think he meant that you can match the timestamps here to there and see who everyone actually is (BILL, MATT, KEN)</p>
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		<title>By: What is the 10509</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/31/debating-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-36361</link>
		<dc:creator>What is the 10509</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the &quot;Follow the 10509 and find out?&quot;
Can someone explain what that is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the &#8220;Follow the 10509 and find out?&#8221;<br />
Can someone explain what that is?</p>
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		<title>By: Balls employment</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/31/debating-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-36360</link>
		<dc:creator>Balls employment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Mr. Ball go to work for this developement company with the plans of redoing the entire Village of Brewster?  Part of his getting elected was to then get officials elected in Brewster that could be manipulated so this Exceed would beable to come in?  That was why we figured Exceed kept Ball on the payroll...to get elected.  Then there was the rumor that someone in Exceed was very displeased with Ball and has separated from him.  But this may just be rumors as are much of the stories around Ball.  Never know what to believe anynore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Mr. Ball go to work for this developement company with the plans of redoing the entire Village of Brewster?  Part of his getting elected was to then get officials elected in Brewster that could be manipulated so this Exceed would beable to come in?  That was why we figured Exceed kept Ball on the payroll&#8230;to get elected.  Then there was the rumor that someone in Exceed was very displeased with Ball and has separated from him.  But this may just be rumors as are much of the stories around Ball.  Never know what to believe anynore.</p>
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		<title>By: Follow the 10509 and findout</title>
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		<dc:creator>Follow the 10509 and findout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg Ball: Passed 8 pieces (0 prime) of Legislation in his first term.

Willis Stephens: Passed 4 pieces (0 prime) of Legislation in his first term.

And the great Vinny Leibell: passed.. ZERO. A big fat goose egg as a freshman. Way to go Mr. Popularity.

Source: New York Red Book

Comments: I&#039;d rather have an ineffectual backbencher then an empty suite whose just there to steer contracts to friends &amp; family members. It stands to reason that you would strike out at a real maverick conservative reformer. You are part of the failed Putnam patronage machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg Ball: Passed 8 pieces (0 prime) of Legislation in his first term.</p>
<p>Willis Stephens: Passed 4 pieces (0 prime) of Legislation in his first term.</p>
<p>And the great Vinny Leibell: passed.. ZERO. A big fat goose egg as a freshman. Way to go Mr. Popularity.</p>
<p>Source: New York Red Book</p>
<p>Comments: I&#8217;d rather have an ineffectual backbencher then an empty suite whose just there to steer contracts to friends &#038; family members. It stands to reason that you would strike out at a real maverick conservative reformer. You are part of the failed Putnam patronage machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Ball promises everything, delivers nothing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ball promises everything, delivers nothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ball called our last assemblyman a â€œprofessional politicianâ€ and a â€œgood old boyâ€ who voted 90% of the time with Sheldon Silver the Democrat Speaker of the Assembly. Ball knew those accusations to be lies, but also was aware the local press could be relied upon not to check the facts on his predecessors voting records. Ball by his aggressive campaign of lies replaced the great representation the district had in Willis Stephens, Jr.. 
 
Here is what the district had before Ball went to Albany. 
 
Will Stephens was the Minority Pro Tempore, the second in command of the Republican leadership, and director of floor operations for the minority. He is a skilled attorney, who wrote, personally, much of the legislation that the minority introduced on the floor of the Assembly. He was not a â€œprofessional politicianâ€ as Ball accused, but was a successful attorney in private practice. Stephens had previously been counsel to the majority in the New York State Senate, and as such was directly responsible for policy and the drafting of legislation related to i t. Stephens, a home owner, is married with three children, and was well aware of the tax burden working families in the district were facing and continue to face. He fought for property tax relief, and was successful in doing so. As second in command in the Assembly minority, Stephens was able to negotiate with the leadership of the majority, and in being a position to do so, advanced Republican legislation and principles. One has to understand that Democrat assembly members out number Republicans by 2-1, of the 150 assembly seats only 42 are Republican. What influence the 99th had at the time that Stephens was the assemblyman was totally lost when Ball defeated him.
 
Here is what the district got in electing Ball:
 
Ball now is a â€œprofessional politicianâ€; it is his only job, and he is a backbencher. Ball is totally disliked on both sides of the isle, by Republican and Democrat alike. He spent the prior two years to his election working for Exceed International. But even though he was employed full time as an executive of the company, he was able to knock on â€œ10,000â€ doors running for the job he now holds. It appears that he received a full time salary from the company, but spent most of his time running for election to the assembly. Nice work if you can get it. Sounds like an illegal campaign contribution to me, but then again I may be naÃ¯ve. Remember he ran the campaign for those two years while being employed by Exceed. He was all over the district, at every event, at every occasion, at â€œ10,000â€ doors. When did he have time to work for Exceed? What did he do for Exceed? What projects did he direct? What revenues and contracts did he produce for the company? His campaign literature was devoid of such minor things.

Ball states in his current campaign literature that he was sponsor of 17 pieces of legislation that passed during his first term in the assembly. That is easily verifiable, and again he relies on a compliant press to not verify his claims. If one checks, in fact, far less has been passed with his name on it. If a search is run, one will quickly see, that Ball only has 8 pieces of legislation with his name on them. 3 pieces contain every assembly members name as co-sponsor( Democrat and Republican), and 5 pieces of legislation were DEMOCRAT introduced bills. In the minority, and a first term backbencher, Ball is totally ineffectual. His claims are preposterous and foolish, and he relies on an uninformed public to believe him, and a compliant local press to not do their homework. 

To the voters of the 99th A.D. please do not repeat the mistake of 2006. Turn Ball out of office. Elect Degnan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ball called our last assemblyman a â€œprofessional politicianâ€ and a â€œgood old boyâ€ who voted 90% of the time with Sheldon Silver the Democrat Speaker of the Assembly. Ball knew those accusations to be lies, but also was aware the local press could be relied upon not to check the facts on his predecessors voting records. Ball by his aggressive campaign of lies replaced the great representation the district had in Willis Stephens, Jr.. </p>
<p>Here is what the district had before Ball went to Albany. </p>
<p>Will Stephens was the Minority Pro Tempore, the second in command of the Republican leadership, and director of floor operations for the minority. He is a skilled attorney, who wrote, personally, much of the legislation that the minority introduced on the floor of the Assembly. He was not a â€œprofessional politicianâ€ as Ball accused, but was a successful attorney in private practice. Stephens had previously been counsel to the majority in the New York State Senate, and as such was directly responsible for policy and the drafting of legislation related to i t. Stephens, a home owner, is married with three children, and was well aware of the tax burden working families in the district were facing and continue to face. He fought for property tax relief, and was successful in doing so. As second in command in the Assembly minority, Stephens was able to negotiate with the leadership of the majority, and in being a position to do so, advanced Republican legislation and principles. One has to understand that Democrat assembly members out number Republicans by 2-1, of the 150 assembly seats only 42 are Republican. What influence the 99th had at the time that Stephens was the assemblyman was totally lost when Ball defeated him.</p>
<p>Here is what the district got in electing Ball:</p>
<p>Ball now is a â€œprofessional politicianâ€; it is his only job, and he is a backbencher. Ball is totally disliked on both sides of the isle, by Republican and Democrat alike. He spent the prior two years to his election working for Exceed International. But even though he was employed full time as an executive of the company, he was able to knock on â€œ10,000â€ doors running for the job he now holds. It appears that he received a full time salary from the company, but spent most of his time running for election to the assembly. Nice work if you can get it. Sounds like an illegal campaign contribution to me, but then again I may be naÃ¯ve. Remember he ran the campaign for those two years while being employed by Exceed. He was all over the district, at every event, at every occasion, at â€œ10,000â€ doors. When did he have time to work for Exceed? What did he do for Exceed? What projects did he direct? What revenues and contracts did he produce for the company? His campaign literature was devoid of such minor things.</p>
<p>Ball states in his current campaign literature that he was sponsor of 17 pieces of legislation that passed during his first term in the assembly. That is easily verifiable, and again he relies on a compliant press to not verify his claims. If one checks, in fact, far less has been passed with his name on it. If a search is run, one will quickly see, that Ball only has 8 pieces of legislation with his name on them. 3 pieces contain every assembly members name as co-sponsor( Democrat and Republican), and 5 pieces of legislation were DEMOCRAT introduced bills. In the minority, and a first term backbencher, Ball is totally ineffectual. His claims are preposterous and foolish, and he relies on an uninformed public to believe him, and a compliant local press to not do their homework. </p>
<p>To the voters of the 99th A.D. please do not repeat the mistake of 2006. Turn Ball out of office. Elect Degnan!</p>
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		<title>By: Long time in Northern Westchester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Long time in Northern Westchester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the years, we see candidates for various elected positions and there is always gossip good and bad about all candidates.  But in all our years, we have never seen such garbage as the past two years.  Ball seems to thrive on bad things and only claims good things if he says he did it.  But then again, can not really find those good things that were ever completed, just talk.
We are getting sick of this.  This will be the first time to not vote registered party if Ball wins the primary.  Will then vote democratic.  
Balls can not brainwash everyone with his act.  He should go into acting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the years, we see candidates for various elected positions and there is always gossip good and bad about all candidates.  But in all our years, we have never seen such garbage as the past two years.  Ball seems to thrive on bad things and only claims good things if he says he did it.  But then again, can not really find those good things that were ever completed, just talk.<br />
We are getting sick of this.  This will be the first time to not vote registered party if Ball wins the primary.  Will then vote democratic.  <br />
Balls can not brainwash everyone with his act.  He should go into acting.</p>
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