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		<title>By: free blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>free blog</dc:creator>
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		<description>I&#039;ve truly liked reading your articles.  You obviously know what that you are talking about!  Your website is so straightforward to navigate also, I&#039;ve bookmarked it in my favourites :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve truly liked reading your articles.  You obviously know what that you are talking about!  Your website is so straightforward to navigate also, I&#8217;ve bookmarked it in my favourites :-D</p>
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		<title>By: Vena Wrobleski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vena Wrobleski</dc:creator>
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		<description>The company brokerages network will give you access to some big pool of people who have the details about businesses for sale and buyers or investors looking for a organization venture. By making good use from the information you&#039;ve, you may be cutting a offer and make a handsome profit out of the transactions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The company brokerages network will give you access to some big pool of people who have the details about businesses for sale and buyers or investors looking for a organization venture. By making good use from the information you&#8217;ve, you may be cutting a offer and make a handsome profit out of the transactions.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Lawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Lawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your blog doing a web search Monday night. Look forward to more from you next time around. (If I can get the Briggs &amp; Statton fixed!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your blog doing a web search Monday night. Look forward to more from you next time around. (If I can get the Briggs &#038; Statton fixed!)</p>
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		<title>By: Jiminy Cricket</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jiminy Cricket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m starting to wonder if Tim Hays is actually Professor Irwin Corey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m starting to wonder if Tim Hays is actually Professor Irwin Corey.</p>
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		<title>By: the consultant</title>
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		<dc:creator>the consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the debate last night was better for McCain except for
his facial demeanor..not calming at all..and for his
failure to say that his running mate was qualified to
be president although specifically asked by Bob Schiefer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the debate last night was better for McCain except for<br />
his facial demeanor..not calming at all..and for his<br />
failure to say that his running mate was qualified to<br />
be president although specifically asked by Bob Schiefer</p>
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		<title>By: ed1</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Ian for the clarification.  I&#039;m sitting in front of this computer, trying to finish a story for deadline, and your comment came up.  Guess we&#039;re the last two (sober)  people up this balmy Thursday morning.  Spiro Agnew, an intellectual himself,  called the elitists &quot;nabobs of negativity&quot; shortly before he pleaded no lo contendere to bribery charges.  I think the word &quot;intellectual&quot; is today poorly defined and used (oddly)  almost exclusively as a pejorative. And it&#039;s thrown around like the word &quot;genius,&quot; which is used to describe everyone from Einstein to the guy who figured out how to fix his broken lawn mower.  Perhaps among the last true intellectuals that we&#039;ve had on the political scene in recent memory are W. Buckley, Jr. and Daniel Patrick Moynihan, two people with very different viewpoints, right and left,  but both worthy of listening to even when one disagreed with them.  Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ian for the clarification.  I&#8217;m sitting in front of this computer, trying to finish a story for deadline, and your comment came up.  Guess we&#8217;re the last two (sober)  people up this balmy Thursday morning.  Spiro Agnew, an intellectual himself,  called the elitists &#8220;nabobs of negativity&#8221; shortly before he pleaded no lo contendere to bribery charges.  I think the word &#8220;intellectual&#8221; is today poorly defined and used (oddly)  almost exclusively as a pejorative. And it&#8217;s thrown around like the word &#8220;genius,&#8221; which is used to describe everyone from Einstein to the guy who figured out how to fix his broken lawn mower.  Perhaps among the last true intellectuals that we&#8217;ve had on the political scene in recent memory are W. Buckley, Jr. and Daniel Patrick Moynihan, two people with very different viewpoints, right and left,  but both worthy of listening to even when one disagreed with them.  Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed1, I wasn&#039;t defending 60&#039;s radicals (before my time).  I was mentioning that many anti-Nixon young people now dominate in areas like academia and even in business (e.g. Steve Jobs).  By pissing them off, many successful business people who now should be voting Republican vote Democratic to this day.

Nixon said he represented the silent majority and publicly disdained elistists and the intellectual crowd.  So my point was it is difficult to claim you are against the anti-intellectuals in today&#039;s GOP while praising Nixon who continuing with Goldwater&#039;s campaign with modifications was the one who helped start the GOP&#039;s campaign against &quot;intellectuals.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed1, I wasn&#8217;t defending 60&#8217;s radicals (before my time).  I was mentioning that many anti-Nixon young people now dominate in areas like academia and even in business (e.g. Steve Jobs).  By pissing them off, many successful business people who now should be voting Republican vote Democratic to this day.</p>
<p>Nixon said he represented the silent majority and publicly disdained elistists and the intellectual crowd.  So my point was it is difficult to claim you are against the anti-intellectuals in today&#8217;s GOP while praising Nixon who continuing with Goldwater&#8217;s campaign with modifications was the one who helped start the GOP&#8217;s campaign against &#8220;intellectuals.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: GOP Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>GOP Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed1,

Thank you. I just spent a beautiful weekend with Cardinals, Archbishops, Bishops, Priests, Brothers, Sisters and Lay People - and I won&#039;t mention what the Holy Father gave to us - but your timing couldn&#039;t have been more perfect.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed1,</p>
<p>Thank you. I just spent a beautiful weekend with Cardinals, Archbishops, Bishops, Priests, Brothers, Sisters and Lay People &#8211; and I won&#8217;t mention what the Holy Father gave to us &#8211; but your timing couldn&#8217;t have been more perfect.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: ed1</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOP Girl:  Sometimes, as with James Joyce, Tim&#039;s language must be delicately edited to receive the papal imprimatur.  Good company, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOP Girl:  Sometimes, as with James Joyce, Tim&#8217;s language must be delicately edited to receive the papal imprimatur.  Good company, though.</p>
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		<title>By: GOP Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>GOP Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SORRY- SORRY - SORRY - major cut and pasting error-should read:

â€œTim Hays 
October 15th, 2008 at 8:12 pm 
I do want Ed1 somewhere in our loop, next year.â€

I hope you are still planning on inviting jiminy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SORRY- SORRY &#8211; SORRY &#8211; major cut and pasting error-should read:</p>
<p>â€œTim Hays <br />
October 15th, 2008 at 8:12 pm <br />
I do want Ed1 somewhere in our loop, next year.â€</p>
<p>I hope you are still planning on inviting jiminy.</p>
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		<title>By: GOP Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>GOP Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Tim Hays 
October 15th, 2008 at 8:12 pm 
Wow. You guys are playing with yourselves. I do want Ed1 somewhere in our loop, next year.&quot;

I hope you are still planning on inviting jiminy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tim Hays <br />
October 15th, 2008 at 8:12 pm <br />
Wow. You guys are playing with yourselves. I do want Ed1 somewhere in our loop, next year.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope you are still planning on inviting jiminy.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hays</title>
		<link>http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2008/10/10/hrc-back-on-the-stump-for-obama-biden/comment-page-2/#comment-40274</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Hays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian:

First, thank you for understanding my pain. That is, the Dodgers losing.

Truth is: the candidate whose advisors would have been best was. ..Mrs. Clinton.

They&#039;ll throw me out of the Republican Party for saying that. And I&#039;ve been a member for 35 years.

Bush screwed us. I voted for him twice. Kill me. What a stupid human. He should be charged with treason. Along with the fools who enabled him. Republican loyalty goes only so far.

I love Chris Buckley.

The old Reaganite,me--

Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian:</p>
<p>First, thank you for understanding my pain. That is, the Dodgers losing.</p>
<p>Truth is: the candidate whose advisors would have been best was. ..Mrs. Clinton.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ll throw me out of the Republican Party for saying that. And I&#8217;ve been a member for 35 years.</p>
<p>Bush screwed us. I voted for him twice. Kill me. What a stupid human. He should be charged with treason. Along with the fools who enabled him. Republican loyalty goes only so far.</p>
<p>I love Chris Buckley.</p>
<p>The old Reaganite,me&#8212;<br />
Tim</p>
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		<title>By: ed1</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, on one issue that fries my gonads,  criticizes Tim for having disdain for 60&#039;s radicals.  What new Republican Party wing is this that sings the praises of rioters, looters, bomb-tossers and people who would not only not serve this country (other than in Congress over shrimp cocktails and small napkins) but attempted to communize it?  What wing is this that equates intellectualism with unsanctioned violence and categorizes a class of college students (who had then a vested interest in political opinion driven by the draft,) as &quot;intellectuals.  When I was in college, I knew three of four.  When did we decide that &quot;intellectuals&quot; were persons not with a 150 IQ, but one of 110?  I have little or no disagreement for you opinion generally,  Ian, but this issue aggravates me and I am sorely disappointed to hear revisionist history of the 60&#039;s and an attempt to make  appealing  &quot;successful baby boomers&quot;  who have done little for long except to self aggrandize and criticize those who have throughout history spilled blood in a splendid altruism for this nation&#039;s benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, on one issue that fries my gonads,  criticizes Tim for having disdain for 60&#8217;s radicals.  What new Republican Party wing is this that sings the praises of rioters, looters, bomb-tossers and people who would not only not serve this country (other than in Congress over shrimp cocktails and small napkins) but attempted to communize it?  What wing is this that equates intellectualism with unsanctioned violence and categorizes a class of college students (who had then a vested interest in political opinion driven by the draft,) as &#8220;intellectuals.  When I was in college, I knew three of four.  When did we decide that &#8220;intellectuals&#8221; were persons not with a 150 IQ, but one of 110?  I have little or no disagreement for you opinion generally,  Ian, but this issue aggravates me and I am sorely disappointed to hear revisionist history of the 60&#8217;s and an attempt to make  appealing  &#8220;successful baby boomers&#8221;  who have done little for long except to self aggrandize and criticize those who have throughout history spilled blood in a splendid altruism for this nation&#8217;s benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, I don&#039;t have any desire to harm anyone.  I just think you are wrong about this election and about G.W. and I still have troubling following your rationale.  It looks like you will get your wish as I think barring any unforeseen event that Obama is going to win.  I preferred Romney as well and I think he would have done better at tonight&#039;s debate in which McCain needed a big win and didn&#039;t deliver.

And yes, the Dodgers like the Yankees are done.  I am hoping the Red Sox are out tomorrow as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, I don&#8217;t have any desire to harm anyone.  I just think you are wrong about this election and about G.W. and I still have troubling following your rationale.  It looks like you will get your wish as I think barring any unforeseen event that Obama is going to win.  I preferred Romney as well and I think he would have done better at tonight&#8217;s debate in which McCain needed a big win and didn&#8217;t deliver.</p>
<p>And yes, the Dodgers like the Yankees are done.  I am hoping the Red Sox are out tomorrow as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hays</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Hays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian:

My Dodgers are losing, so I am here back on the blogs.

Yes: I am full of contradictory statements, and you, my friend, have a great memory.

I DID applaud Nixon/Agnew, undoubtedly the romantic in me speaking.

I DID-- and DO-- disdain the &quot;anti-intellectuals.&quot; For the record: I hate them. Well, not &quot;hate.&quot; I don&#039;t &quot;hate&quot; anybody. Except radical extremists abroad.

But those who are anti-intellectual cause great destruction in our country.

So far as my Republican Party is concerned: last week, George Will (in the Post) and David Brooks (in The Times) spoke for me. I couldn&#039;t have put it any better.

This is not the best year for a Republican to be elected president. In fact, McCain winning might end the Republican Party as we know it. Though I love and admire him.

I apologize for this, but George W. Bush was an idiot. Still is. I am ashamed for his presidency, over the past three years, as a lifelong Republican.

Read my lips: &quot;No NEW Texans!&quot;

I am a Romney Republican. Kill me, should you wish.

I hope only for the greater good of our nation.

Any Democrats done better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian:</p>
<p>My Dodgers are losing, so I am here back on the blogs.</p>
<p>Yes: I am full of contradictory statements, and you, my friend, have a great memory.</p>
<p>I DID applaud Nixon/Agnew, undoubtedly the romantic in me speaking.</p>
<p>I DID&#8212;and DO&#8212;disdain the &#8220;anti-intellectuals.&#8221; For the record: I hate them. Well, not &#8220;hate.&#8221; I don&#8217;t &#8220;hate&#8221; anybody. Except radical extremists abroad.</p>
<p>But those who are anti-intellectual cause great destruction in our country.</p>
<p>So far as my Republican Party is concerned: last week, George Will (in the Post) and David Brooks (in The Times) spoke for me. I couldn&#8217;t have put it any better.</p>
<p>This is not the best year for a Republican to be elected president. In fact, McCain winning might end the Republican Party as we know it. Though I love and admire him.</p>
<p>I apologize for this, but George W. Bush was an idiot. Still is. I am ashamed for his presidency, over the past three years, as a lifelong Republican.</p>
<p>Read my lips: &#8220;No NEW Texans!&#8221;</p>
<p>I am a Romney Republican. Kill me, should you wish.</p>
<p>I hope only for the greater good of our nation.</p>
<p>Any Democrats done better?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I meant to write, &quot;anti-intellectual&quot;.  I should start proofreading my posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I meant to write, &#8220;anti-intellectual&#8221;.  I should start proofreading my posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, in 2006, some very prominent right-of-center columnists claimed Republicans were better off losing and that somehow it would help Republicans in 2008.  I never bought that argument and it has beeen proven to be untrue.  Losing is almost never beneficial and it won&#039;t help Republicans this time, either.  

Tim, I am not sure what your argument is.  In general, you post a lot of conflicting statements.  In another post, you bemoan the anti-illectual sentiment within the Republican Party yet at the same time you repeatedly on this blog have praised Nixon/Agnew and denounce 60&#039;s radicals.  Nixon, started the anti-illectual trend in the GOP and if anything cost us a lot of fairly succesful baby boomers&#039; votes to this day.

If Democrats win the Presidency and expand their House and Senate majorities (hopefully, Republicans turn it around), you can look forward to a liberal renaissance for at least a few decades.  If you think Obama is better for the country give him your vote but if you think McCain would be a better President than vote for him.  To use McCain&#039;s silly campaign slogan, &quot;put country first&quot; and not worry about the future of the GOP (which I believe you are wrong on).  I happen to believe McCain would be better than Obama and if nothing else will at least temper the inclinations of a very Democratic Congress.    

The market is cyclical.  It will pick up and Democrats will get credit for it, despite doing very little.  Remember Clinton in the early 1990&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, in 2006, some very prominent right-of-center columnists claimed Republicans were better off losing and that somehow it would help Republicans in 2008.  I never bought that argument and it has beeen proven to be untrue.  Losing is almost never beneficial and it won&#8217;t help Republicans this time, either.  </p>
<p>Tim, I am not sure what your argument is.  In general, you post a lot of conflicting statements.  In another post, you bemoan the anti-illectual sentiment within the Republican Party yet at the same time you repeatedly on this blog have praised Nixon/Agnew and denounce 60&#8217;s radicals.  Nixon, started the anti-illectual trend in the GOP and if anything cost us a lot of fairly succesful baby boomers&#8217; votes to this day.</p>
<p>If Democrats win the Presidency and expand their House and Senate majorities (hopefully, Republicans turn it around), you can look forward to a liberal renaissance for at least a few decades.  If you think Obama is better for the country give him your vote but if you think McCain would be a better President than vote for him.  To use McCain&#8217;s silly campaign slogan, &#8220;put country first&#8221; and not worry about the future of the GOP (which I believe you are wrong on).  I happen to believe McCain would be better than Obama and if nothing else will at least temper the inclinations of a very Democratic Congress.    </p>
<p>The market is cyclical.  It will pick up and Democrats will get credit for it, despite doing very little.  Remember Clinton in the early 1990&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hays</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Hays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. You guys are playing with yourselves. I do want Ed1 somewhere in our loop, next year.

If my Republican ticket is elected this year, it might spell the end of the GOP for twenty years. The next four years are going to be a disaster, and we have no Richard Nixon or Ronald Reagan to save us. Or even a Bill Clinton, the next best thing to an elected Republican president.

Disclosure: I LOVE John McCain. Admire him to the hilt. I WANT him to be president. John McCain DESERVES to be president. In other times, say, eight years ago, over that fool Bush. (I have never liked him.)

Do we, as Republicans, want our next president to preside over a 5,000 DOW?

Little Bush is about to go down with (James) Buchanan and (Herbert) Hoover as one of the worst presidents in history. He has been a public relations DISASTER for us Republicans the past three years.

When I was twelve, in Los Angeles, in 1966, the great RWR initiated his famous &quot;Eleventh Commandment.&quot; It had purpose at the time. Now, weak, thin-skinned Republicans use it as an excuse to avoid criticism. What BS.

Just some food for thought.

In the words of Lyndon Johnson, as savvy a politician as ever lived: &quot;It&#039;s better to be on the outside of the tent, pissing in, than (vice versa).&quot;

Think of that in November.

May God save us in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. You guys are playing with yourselves. I do want Ed1 somewhere in our loop, next year.</p>
<p>If my Republican ticket is elected this year, it might spell the end of the GOP for twenty years. The next four years are going to be a disaster, and we have no Richard Nixon or Ronald Reagan to save us. Or even a Bill Clinton, the next best thing to an elected Republican president.</p>
<p>Disclosure: I LOVE John McCain. Admire him to the hilt. I WANT him to be president. John McCain DESERVES to be president. In other times, say, eight years ago, over that fool Bush. (I have never liked him.)</p>
<p>Do we, as Republicans, want our next president to preside over a 5,000 DOW?</p>
<p>Little Bush is about to go down with (James) Buchanan and (Herbert) Hoover as one of the worst presidents in history. He has been a public relations DISASTER for us Republicans the past three years.</p>
<p>When I was twelve, in Los Angeles, in 1966, the great RWR initiated his famous &#8220;Eleventh Commandment.&#8221; It had purpose at the time. Now, weak, thin-skinned Republicans use it as an excuse to avoid criticism. What BS.</p>
<p>Just some food for thought.</p>
<p>In the words of Lyndon Johnson, as savvy a politician as ever lived: &#8220;It&#8217;s better to be on the outside of the tent, pissing in, than (vice versa).&#8221;</p>
<p>Think of that in November.</p>
<p>May God save us in America.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction, Mike Murphy was part of a team that guided McCain in 2000 that included Rick Davis, McCain&#039;s current campaign manager.  Murphy had a chance to be part of McCain&#039;s team but chose not to in the primary because of his relationship with Romney.  After the primary, it was too late as didn&#039;t get along with Rick Davis.  Other than Weaver and Murphy, the team is pretty much intact.  If memory serves me right, McCain didn&#039;t win in 2000 and Murphy also does lobbying.  Almost every campaign strategist is either an exclusive strategist or does lobbying, it is the nature of politics.  Lobbying per se is not inherently bad just some lobbyists happen to give the profession a bad name.   

I don&#039;t think anyone blames Charlie Black for Dole losing.  

I don&#039;t think anyone in the campaign is responsible for McCain picking Palin other than McCain himself.  It is clear that McCain&#039;s campaign and any independent politico felt that McCain had to do something with his VP selection to excite people and MCCAIN decided that Palin was the right choice.  If McCain didn&#039;t want her, he wouldn&#039;t have picked her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction, Mike Murphy was part of a team that guided McCain in 2000 that included Rick Davis, McCain&#8217;s current campaign manager.  Murphy had a chance to be part of McCain&#8217;s team but chose not to in the primary because of his relationship with Romney.  After the primary, it was too late as didn&#8217;t get along with Rick Davis.  Other than Weaver and Murphy, the team is pretty much intact.  If memory serves me right, McCain didn&#8217;t win in 2000 and Murphy also does lobbying.  Almost every campaign strategist is either an exclusive strategist or does lobbying, it is the nature of politics.  Lobbying per se is not inherently bad just some lobbyists happen to give the profession a bad name.   </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone blames Charlie Black for Dole losing.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone in the campaign is responsible for McCain picking Palin other than McCain himself.  It is clear that McCain&#8217;s campaign and any independent politico felt that McCain had to do something with his VP selection to excite people and MCCAIN decided that Palin was the right choice.  If McCain didn&#8217;t want her, he wouldn&#8217;t have picked her.</p>
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		<title>By: the consultant</title>
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		<dc:creator>the consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Ian ..Mike Murphy was the one who guided McCain
in 2000..his instincts are that of a consultant who
understands the dynamic...charlie black is a lobbyist
who lost the dole effort and lost the gramm effort
in short..they should not be the ones telling Mccain
what he should do to capture the middle..and their
insistance on palin is proof of the pudding..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Ian ..Mike Murphy was the one who guided McCain<br />
in 2000..his instincts are that of a consultant who<br />
understands the dynamic&#8230;charlie black is a lobbyist<br />
who lost the dole effort and lost the gramm effort<br />
in short..they should not be the ones telling Mccain<br />
what he should do to capture the middle..and their<br />
insistance on palin is proof of the pudding..</p>
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		<title>By: ed1</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buckley inherited from his distinguished father nothing more than a train of money and an odd sense of humor. He, along with Susan Cheever, is the Arlo Guthrie of the printed word - small talents with a large name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buckley inherited from his distinguished father nothing more than a train of money and an odd sense of humor. He, along with Susan Cheever, is the Arlo Guthrie of the printed word &#8211; small talents with a large name.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Murphy and John Weaver are not two of the best in the business.  Weaver was forced out after he helped lead McCain&#039;s campaign into a large deficit.  After he left the campaign, it turned around.  I agree that McCain&#039;s staff is not top-notch but Weaver (who hasn&#039;t ever won a presidential race) is not the answer.  Murphy, is a media consultant so it is difficult to judge his performance.  I have never been impressed with his analysis on Meet The Press but perhaps behind the scenes he is better.  However, the one campaign where he had greater control was Rick Lazio&#039;s and we know how that turned out (&quot;Sign it.&quot;)

In general, McCain needed a better staff but unfortunately, there is a dearth of talented political consultants in the GOP right now.  Bush&#039;s 2004 team was about as good as it gets in the GOP and I wouldn&#039;t say they were any better than the Democrats on the other side tactically (although I would take Rove or Mehlman over Shrum).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Murphy and John Weaver are not two of the best in the business.  Weaver was forced out after he helped lead McCain&#8217;s campaign into a large deficit.  After he left the campaign, it turned around.  I agree that McCain&#8217;s staff is not top-notch but Weaver (who hasn&#8217;t ever won a presidential race) is not the answer.  Murphy, is a media consultant so it is difficult to judge his performance.  I have never been impressed with his analysis on Meet The Press but perhaps behind the scenes he is better.  However, the one campaign where he had greater control was Rick Lazio&#8217;s and we know how that turned out (&#8220;Sign it.&#8221;)</p>
<p>In general, McCain needed a better staff but unfortunately, there is a dearth of talented political consultants in the GOP right now.  Bush&#8217;s 2004 team was about as good as it gets in the GOP and I wouldn&#8217;t say they were any better than the Democrats on the other side tactically (although I would take Rove or Mehlman over Shrum).</p>
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		<title>By: GOP Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>GOP Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Consultant,

I believe the choice currently is McCain or Obama. McCain is infinitely more qualified than Obama to run our country.

Or do you disagree?

If the campaign were Palin against Obama - I still believe Palin is more qualified.

IMHO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Consultant,</p>
<p>I believe the choice currently is McCain or Obama. McCain is infinitely more qualified than Obama to run our country.</p>
<p>Or do you disagree?</p>
<p>If the campaign were Palin against Obama &#8211; I still believe Palin is more qualified.</p>
<p>IMHO</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A number of points.

Buckley&#039;s son is only notable because as he admits in his piece his last name is Buckley.  I would add that Buckley&#039;s son justification is basically Obama is more intelligent than McCain.  Which is probably true but this isn&#039;t an IQ test and I know plenty of intelligent people with wacky ideas.  Just go down to Berkeley...   I find it incredibly obnoxious that Buckley did what many in the msm did, tell Republicans to support McCain in the primary and then turn around and tell Republicans they aren&#039;t supporting McCain.  Buckley, really doesn&#039;t justify his change in position other than perhaps he was planning to vote against any Republican.  

The Bradley effect is an overhyped phenomenon.  In only two elections involving African-Americans has it happened.  In 2006, Harold Ford Jr. actually did better than exit polling in Tennesseee.  If Obama is ahead in polling at the end by a substantial margin, he will be the next President. 

If one who was previously planning to vote for the Presidential nominee doesn&#039;t vote for the Presidential nominee because of the Vice Presidential nominee that is absurd.  A VP does hardly anything.  Palin, will get a voice in energy policy and that is it.  If you were undecided before her selection that would be one thing but if you were previously planning to vote for McCain and now won&#039;t, that is another.  If you don&#039;t like McCain or you are no longer happy with the Republican party that is one thing but to claim you are not voting for McCain (at a time when he is getting crushed in the polls) because of Palin is like only rooting for A-Rod when he is winning the MVP.  It strikes one as wanting to be on the winning side.  

SR, I believe Obama being African-American actually helps him more than hurts him.  A lot of white people and African-Americans who would either not come out to vote or alternatively not vote Democratic (more of the latter group) are voting for him precisely because he is Black.  Many whites feel better about the country&#039;s past if we have a black man as President.  This number far outweighs the limited number of people that won&#039;t vote for Obama because of his race.  

Consultant-Cheney is not a neocon but a traditional conservative who is hawkish on foreign policy.  His views on foreign policy are not that different from Henry Kissinger.  Cheney served in both HW&#039;s and Ford&#039;s administration in senior positions.  In general, that is a slur that is thrown around way too often and typically inaccurately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A number of points.</p>
<p>Buckley&#8217;s son is only notable because as he admits in his piece his last name is Buckley.  I would add that Buckley&#8217;s son justification is basically Obama is more intelligent than McCain.  Which is probably true but this isn&#8217;t an IQ test and I know plenty of intelligent people with wacky ideas.  Just go down to Berkeley&#8230;   I find it incredibly obnoxious that Buckley did what many in the msm did, tell Republicans to support McCain in the primary and then turn around and tell Republicans they aren&#8217;t supporting McCain.  Buckley, really doesn&#8217;t justify his change in position other than perhaps he was planning to vote against any Republican.  </p>
<p>The Bradley effect is an overhyped phenomenon.  In only two elections involving African-Americans has it happened.  In 2006, Harold Ford Jr. actually did better than exit polling in Tennesseee.  If Obama is ahead in polling at the end by a substantial margin, he will be the next President. </p>
<p>If one who was previously planning to vote for the Presidential nominee doesn&#8217;t vote for the Presidential nominee because of the Vice Presidential nominee that is absurd.  A VP does hardly anything.  Palin, will get a voice in energy policy and that is it.  If you were undecided before her selection that would be one thing but if you were previously planning to vote for McCain and now won&#8217;t, that is another.  If you don&#8217;t like McCain or you are no longer happy with the Republican party that is one thing but to claim you are not voting for McCain (at a time when he is getting crushed in the polls) because of Palin is like only rooting for A-Rod when he is winning the MVP.  It strikes one as wanting to be on the winning side.  </p>
<p>SR, I believe Obama being African-American actually helps him more than hurts him.  A lot of white people and African-Americans who would either not come out to vote or alternatively not vote Democratic (more of the latter group) are voting for him precisely because he is Black.  Many whites feel better about the country&#8217;s past if we have a black man as President.  This number far outweighs the limited number of people that won&#8217;t vote for Obama because of his race.  </p>
<p>Consultant-Cheney is not a neocon but a traditional conservative who is hawkish on foreign policy.  His views on foreign policy are not that different from Henry Kissinger.  Cheney served in both HW&#8217;s and Ford&#8217;s administration in senior positions.  In general, that is a slur that is thrown around way too often and typically inaccurately.</p>
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		<dc:creator>the consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no need to apologize..no biggie..but i always answer both
my critics and those who agree.its just common courtesy.
but you should know that in a poll released today which asked voters why they had a lesser opinion of Mccain now than before 22% said sarah palin....
liking her is not the issue..I am sure she is a very
nice lady..would you trust her to govern the nation
I would not...and neither would 60% of those polled
who find her unacceptable as president</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no need to apologize..no biggie..but i always answer both<br />
my critics and those who agree.its just common courtesy.<br />
but you should know that in a poll released today which asked voters why they had a lesser opinion of Mccain now than before 22% said sarah palin&#8230;.<br />
liking her is not the issue..I am sure she is a very<br />
nice lady..would you trust her to govern the nation<br />
I would not&#8230;and neither would 60% of those polled<br />
who find her unacceptable as president</p>
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		<title>By: GOP Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>GOP Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sincerely, apologize consultant-you did answer me and I missed it.

I did read Chris&#039;s DailyBeast column and his resignation.

I also agree with you that it is the economy that will be driving the race and, hold your breath, I do not think the Bradley Effect is going to be that big.

But I still like Sarah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sincerely, apologize consultant-you did answer me and I missed it.</p>
<p>I did read Chris&#8217;s DailyBeast column and his resignation.</p>
<p>I also agree with you that it is the economy that will be driving the race and, hold your breath, I do not think the Bradley Effect is going to be that big.</p>
<p>But I still like Sarah.</p>
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		<title>By: SR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is also ironic that McCain is now proposing a plan to cut taxes AND increase spending.  Not only is his plan socialistic but it is against his mantra of cutting spending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is also ironic that McCain is now proposing a plan to cut taxes AND increase spending.  Not only is his plan socialistic but it is against his mantra of cutting spending.</p>
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		<dc:creator>the consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not only is it not working it is backfiring!</description>
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		<title>By: SR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well my personal opinion of the issue is tht of the un-PC position.  I do believe that a lot of people in this country will not vote for Obama because he is black.  However, that doesn&#039;t mean he cannot win.  Especially since McCain really isn&#039;t offering anything better or even different.  

The GOP has had to walk a very fine line this year and it is hurting McCain.  The very campaign strategy that defeated McCain in 2000 they are trying to employ now with bogus whisper campaigns and racial tones but it doesn&#039;t seem to be working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well my personal opinion of the issue is tht of the un-PC position.  I do believe that a lot of people in this country will not vote for Obama because he is black.  However, that doesn&#8217;t mean he cannot win.  Especially since McCain really isn&#8217;t offering anything better or even different.  </p>
<p>The GOP has had to walk a very fine line this year and it is hurting McCain.  The very campaign strategy that defeated McCain in 2000 they are trying to employ now with bogus whisper campaigns and racial tones but it doesn&#8217;t seem to be working.</p>
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		<dc:creator>the consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your analysis is right on SR....anecdotally I have run
into people who are republicans who keep saying that
a black man cannot be elected...this is a mindset
that is dated to say the least..I don&#039;t hear it from
young people only from over 55 group...and they
are sadly miscalculating the mood of the nation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your analysis is right on SR&#8230;.anecdotally I have run<br />
into people who are republicans who keep saying that<br />
a black man cannot be elected&#8230;this is a mindset<br />
that is dated to say the least..I don&#8217;t hear it from<br />
young people only from over 55 group&#8230;and they<br />
are sadly miscalculating the mood of the nation</p>
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