Monday Night at the Debates

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The rapidly aging may remember Paul Simon’s Mrs. Robinson and its jaded view of political debate, though high school jock Simon did manage a heroic look at Joe DiMaggio in that song. Here at Politics on the Hudson, however, we like politics and governance, so we encourage you to go to debates. The League of Women Voters Debate at Sarah Lawrence College tonight in Yonkers features candidates facing off for Congress, state Senate and state Assembly.

The first debate features Rep. Nita Lowey D-Harrison versus Republican Jim Russell; Next is state Sen. Andrea Stewart-Cousins D-Yonkers, versus Republican John Murtagh, a Yonkers City Councilman; and that’s followed by state Assemblyman Michael Spano D-Yonkers versus Republican Jim Faulkner. With the debates slated to start at 7 p.m. and wrap up at 9:15 p.m., you can figure each lasting roughly 45 minutes. The debates will take place at Sarah Lawrence’s Reisinger Auditorium.

Finally, if you were wondering what Paul Simon was writing about, here are the lyrics and please note the last two verses:

And here’s to you, Mrs. Robinson
Jesus loves you more than you will know (Wo, wo, wo)
God bless you please, Mrs. Robinson
Heaven holds a place for those who pray
(Hey, hey, hey…hey, hey, hey)

We’d like to know a little bit about you for our files
We’d like to help you learn to help yourself
Look around you, all you see are sympathetic eyes
Stroll around the grounds until you feel at home

And here’s to you, Mrs. Robinson
Jesus loves you more than you will know (Wo, wo, wo)
God bless you please, Mrs. Robinson
Heaven holds a place for those who pray
(Hey, hey, hey…hey, hey, hey)

Hide it in a hiding place where no one ever goes
Put it in your pantry with your cupcakes
It’s a little secret, just the Robinsons’ affair
Most of all, you’ve got to hide it from the kids

Coo, coo, ca-choo, Mrs Robinson
Jesus loves you more than you will know (Wo, wo, wo)
God bless you please, Mrs. Robinson
Heaven holds a place for those who pray
(Hey, hey, hey…hey, hey, hey)

Sitting on a sofa on a Sunday afternoon
Going to the candidates debate
Laugh about it, shout about it
When you’ve got to choose
Ev’ry way you look at it, you lose

Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio
A nation turns its lonely eyes to you (Woo, woo, woo)
What’s that you say, Mrs. Robinson
Joltin’ Joe has left and gone away
(Hey, hey, hey…hey, hey, hey)

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  1. Jiminy Cricket on

    The immortal Number 5 would be glad to see that Len hit at least a double with that one.

  2. Joe threatened to sue when he heard this song. Simon explained to him that it was complimentary and Joe supposedly relented.

  3. Jiminy Cricket on

    Ed….Speaking of songs, did you know that Terry Cashman (stage name) of “Talking Baseball” fame also co-wrote “Sunday Will Never Be the Same” for Spanky and Our Gang — and even before that was a member of The Chevrons, who were out of the Inwood section of northern Manhattan way back when, and who did a nice song called “Lullabye?” Yes, it’s on YouTube.

    That’s just a bit of trivia that came to mind from the Joe DiMaggio references…and it’s true what you said about Joe D. initially being angry about the lyrics of “Mrs. Robinson.”

  4. Willie, Mickey and the Duke. In my youth, I assumed everything was on the up and up. As the Mick said in an old Edwards and Hanley (brokerage) commercial, “When I came up, I was a head-duckin’, foot-shufflin’ country boy – but I’m learnin’, I’m learnin’.”

  5. the consultant on

    no problem..actually when I was in high school, with
    a black music teachers encouragement I was going to
    do “jole” in black face (who knew)..CORE threatened to
    picket..so of course I did it without the makeup..
    no hard feelings back then on either side…
    I was simply trying to imitate the most successful
    entertainer of his time…not intending to offend
    anyone of course..however as my collegue has mentioned
    there are many passive bigots who don’t think they
    are prejudiced because they believe their positions
    due to stereotypes..

  6. Jiminy,

    A double? Yes, a double off the auxilary scoreboard.

    My understanding is that Joe D was very puzzled over the line “where did you go Joe DiMaggio?” As Paul Simon tells it – and I think he met DiMaggio at Toots Shor’s restaurant – Joe told him “I didn’t go anywhere. I’m still here.” I never heard about DiMaggio hreatening to sue, but he had a reputation for being kind of a prickly guy.

  7. the consultant on

    and from Peggy Noonan..the woman who wrote the reagan
    material….
    In the end the Palin candidacy is a symptom and expression of a new vulgarization in American politics. It’s no good, not for conservatism and not for the country. And yes, it is a mark against John McCain, against his judgment and idealism.

    I gather this week from conservative publications that those whose thoughts lead them to criticism in this area are to be shunned, and accused of the lowest motives. In one now-famous case, Christopher Buckley was shooed from the great magazine his father invented. In all this, the conservative intelligentsia are doing what they have done for five years. They bitterly attacked those who came to stand against the Bush administration. This was destructive. If they had stood for conservative principle and the full expression of views, instead of attempting to silence those who opposed mere party, their movement, and the party, would be in a better, and healthier, position.

    the above says it all

  8. Give me a break. Magazines are in business to make money. Buckley, offered his resignation and the National Review accepted. They were going to lose subscribers if he didn’t step down. If Katrina Vanden Heuvel at the Nation Magazine had endorsed Bush in 2004, she would have resigned as well and faced nasty comments on sites such as the Dailykos. The New Republic faced backlash that continues to this day from the Dailykos and other left wing blogs for supporting Lieberman (who was a staunch Democrat at the time) for President in 2004. Only according to detractors should conservatives embrace those who support the Democratic Party. Buckley, decided to endorse Obama. He also supported the Democrats in 2006. He knew that he would face problems if he did so and that’s what happened. End of story.

  9. This is why Pete Rose’s son is not playing third base for the Cincinnati Reds. They gave him a shot for Pete’s sake and in order to capitalize on his name, but ultimately he couldn’t come close to cutting the mustard, much less his old man’s prime rib.

  10. Jiminy Cricket on

    Well put, Ed. And well said, Ian.

    What happened to Joe DiMaggio? Where has he gone? Is he missing? Len mentions Toots Shor, the saloon keeper of all saloon keepers. His place and P.J. Clarke’s were the two big Manhattan sports hangouts years ago — before my time.

    But I’d think the Consultant was more the Stork Club type. He probably has about 47 ash trays from the Stork Club and a cigarette holder he borrowed from Sherman Billingsley. :)