Former Mass. Gov. Weld For Obama
Obama’s campaign forwarded this AP story this morning about former Massachusetts Gov. William Weld, who also ran for New York governor in 2006.
Weld lost the GOP nomination to John Faso in New York in 2006, with party leaders going with the more conservative Faso despite the backing of Weld by then-party chairman Stephen Minarik, who viewed Weld as a more attractive general election candidate against Eliot Spitzer.
Here’s some of the AP story on Weld:
SALEM, N.H.—Former Massachusetts Gov. William Weld, a Republican, is endorsing Democrat Barack Obama for president, citing the senator’s steady leadership, good judgment and ability to unify Democrats, Republicans and independents.
“Senator Obama is a once-in-a-lifetime candidate who will transform our politics and restore America’s standing in the world,” Weld said in a statement released Friday. “We need a president who will lead based on our common values and Senator Obama demonstrates an ability to unite and inspire.
“Throughout this campaign I’ve watched his steady leadership through trying times and I’m confident he is the best candidate to move our country forward,” Weld said.
Weld planned to hold a news conference at Obama’s campaign office in Salem at 11 a.m.
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What a load of hooey. Weld and the Consultant should read syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer’s excellent column under Opinions in today’s http://www.nydailynews.com.
It was written about the likes of them.
Krauthammer makes very vaid points..but he makes the mistake
of assuming Mccain will be there to fight terrorism..McCain
is 72…Palin is unacceptable a point which he completely
skirts and she would be under the control of the neocons
of which Krauthammer is one…they have already totally
screwed up foreign policy and economic policy..i personnally
have had enough of the ideologue crap that makes assumptions
that simply are not true (see alan greenspans tesitmony
yesterday about un regulated financial markets)
were there another VP choice on the ticket I would feel
a lot better about McCain but there is not..and the
public at large has no confidence in palin and neither
do other respected conservatives…it is time to turn
the page on this evangelical driven right wing
garbage that the republican party never was about
and by the way neither was barry goldwater…
they began to pander to the joe six packs of the
world and they lost their ability to think an
issue through…
Consultant…Your feelings about Palin are well-known, but it’s good you acknowledged Krauthammer made valid points.
BTW…Your “buddy” Sam Zherka is now Federally suing Westchester’s top cop Thomas Belfiore and New York City. He now blames Belfiore and NYPD’s organized crime bureau for starting the criminal investigation of him, and the resulting Manhattan grand jury.
Wasn’t Zherka also claiming it was you and Yonkers officials who were behind this? Now he’s singing another tune. But he can’t have it both ways. It looks like Zherka may be becoming a bit unhinged by this NYC investigation and grand jury.
Andy Spano’s spokeswoman Susan Tolchin fired back at Zherka and his lawyer Lovett, saying Zherka was a strip joint owner and that it was Zherka’s own problems that have made him a grand jury target in Manhattan.
She also pointed out that this serial suer Zherka has filed 19 lawsuits against the county alone, costing taxpayers about $1.9 million to defend.
She also said that to date 14 of those suits vs. the county were either dismissed or withdrawn.
I happen to like the job Weld did as governor of Massachusetts but this is b.s. He supported Romney during the primary and appears to just be jumping ship at an opportune time. I would have more respect for some of these endorsements if they had been done after the GOP convention when McCain was in the lead. For those who stood up for Weld in 2006, this is like a slap in the face.
Weld says Obama has “the ability to unify Democrats, Republicans…” At this point, the discerning reader stops reading and disregards anything further stated. The Welder jumped in a little late with an endorsement, wot? Perhaps he’s campaigning to be Oprah’s Asst. Ambassador to Great Britain. The job is usually given to someone who knows how to drink and hunt “foxes.” Ted Kennedy, anyone?
What I don’t understand is the argument that Obama has had no executive experience. by that logic neither has McCain and Biden so apparently Palin is the only one qualified to be president. And seeing how GW has run this country into the ground being a Govenor doesn’t seem to be a strong credential either and she seems to be going for the GW image…
Omar Manaya for President! At least he finally faced facts and came to the conclusion that he needs to completely revamp his entire bullpen. Few politicians ever gain this kind of enlightenment.
Chuck Norris for President!
You know under his beard is no chin. there is just another fist!
Chuck Norris for President!
You know under his beard is no chin, There is just another fist!
yes Jiminy you hit the nail right on the head…this
latest Zherka lawsuit brought under oath or affirmation
as all lawsuits are alleges that the top cop for
westchester county is responsible for suppplying
to the NYPD the information that zherka’s grand jury
investigation is based upon…and that he (zherka)
wound up on the albanian oc list as a result..that
flies directly into the face of his lawsuit against
the consultant who, he alleges, along with Janet
Di Fiore and mayor amicone caused the grand jury
investigation to be started….SAMMY CAN’T HAVE IT
BOTH WAYS…its either the police commissioner or
the consultant..PICK ONE SAM….there will be sanctions
in this case
the public should also be asking mr zherka why
it is he has not apologized to the consultant as
he said he would if he were wrong about the albanian
kingpin post…as it turns out even according to
the post attached by zherka to his own papers the
consultant never “stated as fact” the zherka
was the kingpin of organized crime ..he merely
challenged the assertion by an anonymous poster
on LO HUD who made the accusation…in fact the
consultant said….in order for the media to run
with the story it had to be proven….which demonstrates
skepticism….the post zherka is complaining about
starts “to the poster who posted”...zherka however
left that precatory language out of the allegation
paragraphs in his lawsuit..misleading the court as
to who was the author of the quote in the first
place..
Jiminy…and fellow travelers….the End is Near!
George W.-style Conservatism will be evicted from the White House after a less-than-fabulous eight year run.
The Consultant is right. When the Republican Party comes home to pragmatic conservativism – tough on crime, smart and tough on taxes, and lets the Eeeevangelicals hang out on the right-wing by themselves – reasonable people will again vote Republican.
Bill Weld and Colin Powell get it. If John McCain wasn’t so spooked by his base, he’d have had a better chance to win (as it is, he’s pretty close given the AWFUL Bush presidency). But the ultra-right – NeoCons and Religious Right scare moderate conservatives including Corporate America along with all manner of independents.
It’s Obama-Time.
Comrades, In order to further depress the market and your retirement plans, I am today raising the long term capital gains tax rate to 40%. Secretary of the Treasury Rangel has graciously agreed to get the ball rolling on implementing this new revenue enhancement program. More programs like this are presently under discussion and will be announced shortly.
While I disagree about McCain/Palin with you-I did see the offer of an apology by Zherka on this post. But then again, you did say this post was anonymous.
Have a wonderful night,
GOPGirl
“Sam Zherka
August 16th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
I Sam Zherka will drop any suit brought by me in federal court or any court against Mike Edelman AKA “the consultant†if the blog entries in question, and mentioned in the Federal Law Suit do not exist.
I will also publicly apologize, and will take out a full page add, (back page) making my apology public.
I ask Mike Edelman, will you apologize in public if the blog exists?
I am a man of my word.
will Mike Edelman the “Consultant†who has saying that the law suit is a fraud, apologize if the LOHUD.com blog which is in question exists.
Will Mike Edelman take out a full page add, in the Westchester Guardian and apologize to Sam Zherka, his wife, parents, children, business partners Etc.
Mike if you are a straight guy, and are telling the truth, agree. I have already.
Sam Zherka
240 North Ave. suite 212
New Rochell NY 10801
914-632-1230
914-576-1481
914-328-3096”
Oops-I missed grabbing Zherkas promise.
Dorry Consultant- here is the rest.
GOPGirl
“Sam Zherka
August 16th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
If Mike Edelman “the consultant†is telling the truth, he should participate in the following.
I Sam Zherka will drop any current law suit and any future law suits against Mike Edelman “the consultant†if the LOHUD.com blog in question which is mentioned in my law suit papers does not exist. I will agree with Mike Edelman at that point that the Law Suit was a fraud.
I Sam Zherka will also apologize in public and take out a full page ad, expressing my apologies to Mike Edelman “the consultantâ€
The question to Mike Edelman is this
Since you are so sure that the Law Suit is a fraud, and that the LOHUD.com blog does not exist, which was posted under “the consultant†and by “the consultant†on Oct 3rd 2007,
Will Mike Edelman “the consultant†agree to apologize to Sam Zherka, his wife, family, children, and all those who have been affected?
Will Mike Edelman take out a full page ad in the Westchester Guardian expressing that apology?
Sam Zherka has already agreed.
The Truth is the Ultimate defense.
Sam Zherka”
Oh and “Dorry” should be “Sorry”
for the nitpickers out there.
GOP Girl, upon entering this forum, you unwarily elected to wade into a nest of well intentioned, but radically opinionated, healthily fanged vipers. Your admirable desire to make all the children play well together is an effort in futility. The consultant is, no doubt, blameless in the issue you chose to elucidate, but he, too, is megalomaniacal, always right, and conciliatory only insofar as his machiavellian wiles afford him to think of himself as a princely social arbiter.
Thank you Ralph,
I have already experienced what you have described-so I don’t spend much time here.
Don’t go. Maybe you can change us all for the better! (Fat chance, but maybe.) : )
Okay Ralph,
I’ll stay, but I don’t put up with rudeness or trolls.
;o)
well GOP girl…thanks for the honest appraisal
we can disagree on a lot of things but that
is what a democracy is all about right?...I mean
its a discussion of the issues of the day..you
can have your opinion and I can have mine but
we can still be friends kind of like ted kennedy
and orin hatch who went out to dinner all the time
its not personal its just politics..
but zherka agreed that if the consultant didn’t post
what zherka said he did he would apologize..
and it is now clear that although the consultant
referred to the “albanian kingpin” authored by
an anonymous poster on the tribune..,he never
posted it as a fact..in fact he challenged its
veracity on Lo Hud…so zherka totally lied
about his apology..and the fact that he is now
suing the commissioner of police of westchester
for defaming him and causing the manhattan da
to investigate him for money laundering prostitution
and drug dealing demonstrates that he is a complete
fraud
Consultant “you can have your opinion and I can have mine but we can still be friends kind of like ted kennedy and orin hatch who went out to dinner all the time its not personal its just politics..”
Thank you consultant.
It’s not personal, it’s politics. I agree. And perhaps we can be friends like Strom Thurmond and Joe Biden who requested that their offices be next to one another because of their friendship. We have a lot of lovely restaurants here in Yonkers.
GOP Girl
Orin Hatch sang unctuous, self-written love songs during courses, and Kennedy’s tender Irish heart nearly burst as he ordered more martinis all around.
I know it is hard for Westchester RINO’s to understand.
(Mind you this is not a slap, it is that I am totally convinced that this is the fact of the matter and this is OK with me)
But contrary to belief,
VP pick Palin is the only thing saving McCain right now.
(Or at least keeping him in the hunt for office) as we continue to obtain and bring in RED STATES.
The campaign is convinced with this (As I am) and has Palin commercials running in the RED STATES, throwing out RED MEAT to Conservatives. The only shot of McCain staying in this fight is Palin.
Regarding Bill Weld,
He lives down (In summer) the road from me in Lake Placid. He is a great guy but a Liberal. It is stunts like this that defeated him in the last governors election. I told him so as we were on the Campaign trail two years ago. Again, Great Guy.
Faso (To his credit) obtained “GOP Grass Roots” support in Central NY, Southern Tier, Adirondacks, Mohawk Valley & Western New York because the “Grass Roots” had it with Pataki/Weld Liberalism .
the polls contradict your intuitive comments about
governor pailin…she is ovewhelmingly considered
not qualified and is the main reason 22 per cent
of those identifying themselves as conservative
are voting for Obama…she is doing one thing
effectively galvanizing the base..but the base is not
going to determine this election, the middle is so
another pick would have given Mccain a better shot
at the middle: all he had to do was pick anyone
else who was qualified….ridge, portman, hutchison
lieberman, romney, christ…anyone else
Back to Zherka for a minute. I don’t know why the courts don’t immediately throw Zherka and his lawyer out on their butts every time they file another ridiculous and frivolous suit. I believe he abuses the courts time and again.
Zherka seems to be suing about half the Westchester phone book (plus New York City) —and I also believe he is desperately trying to confuse the issue so he can try to blame others for “framing” him if he gets indicted in Manhattan.
You don’t have to be Perry Mason or Eliot Ness to see what Zherka and his lawyer Lovett are about.
Susan Tolchin’s statement, which I paraphrased above, summed it up well. She said that Zherka the strip club owner has created his own problems and has become the target of a Manhattan grand jury. And, importantly, HE is also the one who keeps telling Westchester County residents that he is a suspected Albanian mobster, as he did again this week. He is doing that himself.
And, obviously, he also cannot stop criminal investigations.
I think the Consultant, others, and the communities Zherka keeps suing should counter sue right back and demand that severe sanctions be leveled against him and his lawyer.
Zherka has not an ounce of credibility. And neither does that pathetic rag he tries to give away free every week.
we intend to do exactly that…but in the meantime
he gets to have a judge read his papers first so
they can come to the conclusion you have come to
the current judge assigned to the case may not be
all that familiar with his MO having just taken
the bench…but understand that if his lawsuit
against the consultant has to be dismissed rather
than withdrawn voluntarily by zherka there will
be legal consequences..and again any monies received
by the consultant will be contributed to the Maria
Ferrari Childrens Hospital..
Zherka has misrepresented the facts in his lawsuit
against the consultant and now that he has charged
the same allegations against the commissioner
of police in westchester everyone should now realize
what he is up to.
The manhattan county da’s office would not convene
a grand jury unless they thought a crime had been
committed…Bogdanos’is the ada…his lawyer has
told the court categorically that there was no
prior relationship between Bogdanos and the consultant
none whatsoever…and there was no discussion of
any organized crime connections by the consultant
prior to the zherka lawsuite because who knew…
the only reason we now know is because zherka put
it in his own papers…in addition zherka now
says he is in the nyc police data base….so
if someone now makes the same allegation how could
it be defamatory, and if it was in the data base back
in october when the author of the post on the tribune
made the charge (not the consultant)...he mighthave
been basing it on the data base..so zherka should
be suing the proprietor of the data base ie NYC
pd..if he thinks he has been wronged..notice there
is no such lawsuit..
Election Day is approaching, the voters will be responsible for electing the next Commander in Chief. Each candidate is vying for the privilege of our most valuable right. Voting is the ultimate honor of a free people. The right to vote was paid for with the blood and limbs from every successive generation of American soldier defending us from Monarchism, Imperialism, Fascism, and Communism. Now, it will be up to you to defend this generation from the slavery of Socialism; suggested into our psyche by a subliminal injecting left wing media and imposed on us by the left wing, power hungry political machine.
Change is a subjective campaign slogan not a realist plan of action. Fabricating disaffection and stoking fear for purposes of political manipulation is the most insidious of campaign tactics. Historically, it is right out of the National Socialist playbook of 1932 pre-NAZI Germany. Obama supporters should be introspective and admit they are not voting for Obama, as much as they are voting against the Republicans and capitalism. They are reacting emotionally and not intellectually or ideologically.
Populism is the extreme emotion attached to a charismatic candidate not an ideology. Ultra-liberalism is a perversion of Democrat principles; it is government of the few, Oligarchy. Obscene and unaccountable campaign money is Plutocracy, government of the wealthy buying votes. Socialism is a betrayal of libertine concepts, the polar opposite of individual freedom, economic independence, in exchange for government ownership of the means of production. It’s redistribution of capital, called Distribution-ism. Neo-Marxism is the power of government seizing from you to give to me. That is un-American. A free people, are a strong people, do not surrender our freedoms for the dependency of socialism. Together, we can meet the economic and military challenges confronting our nation, so long as we cling to our American revolutionary heritage.
Be reminded, the spirit of our Republic is in the deeds of the American Revolutionaries who sacrificed more for this nation than any of the two presidential candidates on the political scene today, perhaps with the exception of the former Prisoner Of War, Senator John Mcain;
“A government strong enough to give you anything you want is strong enough to take everything you have.” (Thomas Jefferson)
Anthony Mele
You are correct, sir. However, Ramapo does not fall under the President’s jurisdiction.
RE: The polls contradict your intuitive comments about
governor pailin…..........
Stop….Stop…Stop…. with the Liberal, TV, Talking head Polls…..
These are the same polls that clearly said Rudy Guiliani will run away with the election for the GOP as being the Presidential Candidate for the Republican National Party. Stop with these sill talking head polls.
(Many call these polls the George Will, Sean Hannity & John Fund Polls)
NONSENSE!
The info I give is inside info.
Palin’s unfavorables are sky high..her favorables
are in the tank..this has nothing to do with liberals
and everything to do with competence…take a look
at her oil deal in alaska..and now it seems that
the McCain campaign thinks she is out to make
herself the leader of the party..oh what a miserable
choice he made
here is the palin effect:
Colorado 51.3 44.8 Obama +6.5
Ohio 49.9 43.8 Obama +6.1
Florida 47.8 45.6 Obama +2.2
Nevada 49.3 46.0 Obama +3.3
Missouri 48.0 45.3 Obama +2.7
North Carol 48.6 47.6 Obama +1.0
Virginia 51.5 44.5 Obama +7.0
Calling all Conservatives!
This is your invitation to a GOParty:
THE NIGHT OF THE LONG KNIVES
Date: Beginning Wed., Nov. 5th
Where: Every place where Republicans gather
When: 7 am – after your first cup of coffee
Purpose: To assess and allocate blame for the terrible loss ahead by John McCain and the further loss of US Senate and House seats.
Who’s invited: You and you and you!
Purpose: To find the guilty liberal and moderate Republicans who were not sufficiently conservative enough; to lambast McCain for running away from W-style wedge issues; from failure to tag all Demmycrats with the socialist-communist label
And to discuss Palin 2012.
“See ya there, fer sure” Gov. Sarah Palin
bruce..you are essentially correct.there will be moaning
and groaning and knashing of teeth…the conservative wing
of the party will say McCain was not faithful to the cause
that he had bucked the conservatives too many times on
immigration, taxes, torture etc for them to trust him
and that because he wasn’t a deciple of reagan he lost
the moderates in the party will say that the election
was lost because MCain could not attract the independent
voters he needed in key states…and the reason he could
not was because his choice of sarah palin was terribly
flawed that she was unqualified to do the only job a vp
has to do, ie be ready to be president…and that
his lack of knowledge and seeming erratic behavior
when the economic meltdown occured was offputting..
finally they will argue about the direction of the party
for the future..since this election was clearly a
realignment election they are going to have to
figure out a way to reinvent the party as a moderate
government intervention party, a deficit clearing
party and a party whcih does not advocate invading other
nations
You may want to read Michael Goodwin’s column about Obama under opinions in today’s http://www.nydailynews.com.
Goodwin is not a conserative. He is moderately liberal, and he is also a Pulitizer winner. But he is not happy with Obama. He thinks it is going to be a very tough time for America if Obama wins.
Many agree with that point of view.
It’s amazing how some of the so-called “Establishment” or “moderate” wing of the Republican party was the first to dump on their former hero McCain. That’s not very nice. But it is typical. So now, they can endure Obama, Biden, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.
They also can endure a left-wing “legislate from the bench” Supreme Court if Obama gets to pick a justice or two. The country club Republicans can reap what they helped to sow. And they won’t like it.
Like Connie Francis sang, it soon will be “Who’s Sorry Now?”
Jiminy
You might enjoy this piece. Google Orson Scott Card open letter Rhinoceros Times.
Jiminy et al,
You may also enjoy Michael Malone’s Presidential media bias article – of course you’ll need to google it rather than wait for approval.
Jiminy, Jiminy, Jiminy…already blaming the moderate Republicans for the conservatives failures, eh?
Listen, Jay, it was the NeoCons/Evangelicals that blew this election by pushing McCain to the right, beyond where he needed to be to win. Bush barely won his two races – after 8 truly lousy years (ya shoulda run McCain in 2000) the failures of Bush would be left on the lap of ANY Republican nominee.
There was no tremendous majority for Bush’s conservatism – only a slight majority at best. Failure in his leadership flips it the other way. But the better-Red (State)-than-dead crew, led by Rush Limbaugh, Lou Dobbs, etc. forced McCain to toe the line. And when he fails, they will blame him, not their own ideology (and I guess, yours, Jiminy) that can’t see how people when facing two wars, economic disaster, inability to pay for the basics of the American Dream, are no longer madly in love with conservatism.
Now it remains to be seen if the Democrats can do better. They may not. In which case it swings back to you guys.
But face facts: IT IS THE FAILURES OF BUSH-STYLE CONSERVATISM THAT PLACED THE GOP HERE, not the flawed campaign of John McCain.
Y’all Yankees might be in for a bit of a rude awakening in ‘round ‘bout a week or so.
Donkey’s analysis is spot on…and if the limbaugs of the
world keep it up, they will turn whats left of the republican party into the loyale opposition for a generation
Donkey Darling? Whew. There is a barnyard joke somewhere in that one—but I’m not going there.
My comment above was simply a reply to some, like the Consultant, who for his own reasons has been blaming Palin and conservative Republicans for weeks. But Joe Lieberman or Mitt Romney would not have helped if either one had been offered the VP slot. McCain would have lost the base, and more. I personally would have liked to see Romney, but unlike the Consultant and some others, I can understand why he or Ridge wasn’t the choice, let alone Lieberman.
Bush’s problem isn’t that he acted too conservative. It’s that he and his crew spent like liberal Democrats and failed to act when they could have to rein in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They let the Dems have their way, and it was a disaster. Bush and his administration also failed to cut off Wall St. greed. But, by nature, the Dems stand for big taxes and big spending. They will be much worse.
And I do believe that McCain, despite the deck being stacked against him for many reasons, has run a flawed campaign in ways that have nothing to do with Sarah Palin.
GOP Girl…Thanks for the suggestions. I will check them out.
Guys (and Gal, GOP):
Because most of you are students of history, you will acknowledge, as I do, that next week, the Democrats will win the White House. It would not matter if Alfred E. Neuman were their standard-bearer. (Me: I am voting for John McCain, for whom I was Westchester Volunteer Coordinator in 2000, the year in which he SHOULD have been nominated.) Best expression: “Read my lips! No new TEXANS!” But, we as a party are going to tank in the national election this year, even if all the Democrats who are still irrational bigots vote against their candidate.
I can remember 1976 as though it were yesterday. I voted proudly for President Ford, whose picture adorns my office wall. After the horrid result that November, my college friends in California, which Ford had nonetheles won, smugly told me, “Your Republican Party is OVER!” Right. Four years later, we had my hero RWR, in a landslide, and a Republican majority in the Senate. (Remember: NEVER elect an engineer president! Oooh, I loved it. As for the college friends: well, it seems half of them aborted their fetuses, and a lot of the others are rehabilitating from excesses they self-inflicted in the ‘70s. And they’re stil complaining about nuclear energy even now that mainstream Dems are embracing it.)
The cycles of American history are stronger than any of our desires.
Only once since the end of WWII has EITHER party held the White House for longer than two terms: and that was thanks to RWR’s strength in handing his legacy to GHWB in 1988. Also recall: only ONCE since the end of 1945 has the incumbent party won during a recession—in 1956.
Fellow Republicans: get used to it, live with it, and work to elect worthy Republicans in local races from now until 2010/2012. From that crop will come the leaders of the next wave. And we WILL recapture the White House.
Faithfully,
Tim Hays
Tim, good to hear that you changed course and decided to vote for McCain.
McCain, will most likely lose (still an outside shot that he pulls this out) but it is not because he is too liberal or too conservative. It is because he faced a tough political environment, he is not a great debator or policy wonk, he doesn’t have a solid base of financial backers in the same way Bush or Obama does and his campaign made more mistakes than Obama’s.
I think his lack of money probably hurt him more than anything else as he doesn’t have the resources to run a 50 state campaign like Obama does. It would have been nice though if the media was so vigilent about campaign finance reform this year as when Republicans were outraising Democrats in 2000.
Ian:
Thanks—but I’ve not strayed from the course as much as I’ve acknowledged both reality and history.
In this year, neither the news media—knuckleheaded as they may be—nor poor William Ayers, has cost McCain as much as the insipidly ignorant president we elected twice, or the economic shortsightedneess of both the president’s advisors and a corrupt congress.
As for campaign finance reform, it has been a dismal failure, considering Obama’s $650 MILLION in contributions, and our war hero’s mere $350 million. It is ridiculous.
McCain’s people have proved to be no better than those of the Democrat’s. They are the worst self-interested folks—whore lobbyists—since McKinley’s, in 1900. I miss Richard Nixon, who is like a saint next to our candidates this year, with their unaltruistic advisors. (Nixon spent a then-record $39 million in 1972, which was considered obscene; even with the great bag-job contributors who gave him as much as $6 million each, that election cycle may now be viewed with romanticism.)
Hold your nose, and pray for America, in the four years beginning January 20, 2009.
I hope Obama doesn’t fail, at the expense of our nation, but nothing is certain in our world.
George W. Bush should go down as the worst Republican president in our history. I have studied at the Hoover Library in West Branch, Iowa, and can contrast the two. Hoover, who actually studied at Stanford when he was a self-made member of the first graduating class there, in 1896, was far brighter than the ignorant dry-drunk who has betrayed our Republican Party.
Note how well Giuliani did with voters and public opinion even in ultraliberal NYC when he said loudly “I’ll take care of this nonsense,” and did. Note how well Client #9 did in NY State when he loudly said the same thing. Note how well RWR did with the voters nationally when he loudly said the same thing. Note how well Arnold did with the voters in left-leaning Calif. when he said the same thing. Note how well Lieberman did when he bucked his own party in Conn., saying the same thing. Note how well Weld and Romney did in Mass. when they said the same thing. Note how Nader, Perot, and others, although hopelessly underfunded and shunned, effectively skewered national elections by saying the same thing. Note how well God did when he said the same thing and appointed Michael the Archangel to “take care of this nonsense.” Unlike today’s top-seat national candidates, they all had easily understood PLANS to effectuate the elimination of nonsense. Notice how well Bush Jr. did for the time when he said he would take care of the nonsense, then failed, then tumbled. Those who today are giddy with Barackism might well-note the realities of their flawed opinion and be grateful that they have, in this election, little opposition who understand how to remind the voter of how all of this really works. When these “leaders” disappoint, the Jimmy Carters come in for a short period with their Perry Como sweaters and feel-good philosophies. If Obama prevails, as seems presently predictable, we must, for out own safety’s sake, wish him well and hope that his judgement is sufficient, that he is more capable than he appears. As Tim says, if history is any judge, our effective leaders will come from the next wave.
ed1:
We are on the same side: the side of the United States of America. That’s where we and out children live, and we are correct to wish our country to be strong forever. Even if means expelling those who emigrated here illegally.
With our modern-day challenges, we’ll eventually get the next generation of great leaders, the Ronald Reagans of the 21st Century who will right the ship of state.
But we also need the legislative leaders who will thwart the resulting end of our time as the world’s most significant country.
China is now the most powerful country in the world. The next president will have to deal strongly with Iran, as well as with the rest of the middle east. And who’s helping Iran while we continue the illogical sanctions we’ve put upon it? China.
Let’s remember this, too: NEVER trust the Russians, regardless of whichever extant national frenzy they may possess: Communism, Czarism, or even their present-day modified capitalism.
Best,
Tim
p.s.—More about the illogicallity of sanctions at another time. They have NEVER worked. Ironic, eh?
SOME PRETTY DAMNING ADMISSIONS FROM PALIN AND MCCAIN’S OWN
PEOPLE:
But two sources, one Palin associate and one McCain adviser, defended the decision to keep her media interaction limited after she was picked, both saying flatly that she was not ready and that the missteps could have been a lot worse.
They insisted that she needed time to be briefed on national and international issues and on McCain’s record.
“Her lack of fundamental understanding of some key issues was dramatic,” said another McCain source with direct knowledge of the process to prepare Palin after she was picked. The source said it was probably the “hardest” to get her “up to speed than any candidate in history.”
wow!...YOU BETCHA!
That post is just silly, Consultant. Of course ANYONE who was a governor would have to be brought up to speed. And I suspect that last quote is a “pipe job”—not real.
But for very real….what about Obama’s 2001 radio interview that has just now surfaced? He doesn’t like the Founding Fathers, doesn’t like the Constitution, doesn’t think the Warren Court was radical, and makes it clear he wants to “spread the wealth around.”
It’s on YouTube, and in just one day it has already been seen by more people than watch MSNBC’s prime time.
Google search…”Obama” + 2001 radio interview + YouTube.
Well lets see..RWR was a governor..didn’t have to be
brought up to speed…Bill Clinton was a governor
didn’t have to be brought up to speed…spiro agnew
jimmy carter, mitt romney, george romney, W, jeb bush,
Pete Wilson, George Pataki, Rudy,,non of them would
have to be brought up to speed because they demonstrated
an interest in the subject matter….oh I forgot
mike dukakis, and Huckabee…..the problem with sarah is
that she is not a national figure, had very little interest
in national politics, etc….
just listened to Obama…yes he was talking about the
failure of the warren court to redistribute wealth ..
no question about it…but thats apparently what the
american people are asking for…and i am not just
talking about minorities..i am talking about plain
working americans who feel that only the wealthy have
benefited from supply side trickle down theory…and
now they want theirs…
Consultant….I was talking about foreign policy and the records of their running mates. Most govs needed to be brought up to speed at least on foreign policy.
As for the Obama radio interview…then, the American people are asking for socialism, at least. I don’t think they really want that, but I do think they are being sold a dangerous bill of goods.
You noticed, I’m sure, that Obama doesn’t like the Constitution or Founding Fathers very much. Why, he sounds just like….who? Like Rev. Jeremiah Wright, that’s who.
Guys! Redistribution of our wealth is not going to happen even when the Dems win.
Pelosi should be dis-elected by her Dem majority in the House. Only she and her stupid Berkeley (“berserk-ly,” as we phrased it in college) contingent would want the wealth redistribution, and they are lazy, worthless, drugged-out former hippies and modern flakes who have taken over my native California. Hopefully, they will all die of crack overdoses. Soon. The Black Panthers there became Reagan Republicans. The worthless white liberals should face their fate, and die, peacefully. Soon. (And remember the “Roe Effect”—those trashy folks who got knocked up, cheerfully loving Roe v. Wade, and aborted their fetuses: those poor fetuses might have become Democrats. But they’re all dead. And not voting this year.)
Let the Dems pleasure themselves, literally and figuratively, over their presidential win. It happens every so often.
Our Republican Party surely blew the whole goddamn thing the past four years. Thanks to that idiot, for whom I voted twice.
Let THEM—the modern Democrats—blow it now.
And that’s all for now. ;>
Faithfully,
Tim Hays
Historian
Westchester Republican Party
I am on record as preferring other VP picks to Palin. However, to say that any of the aforementioned politicians did not have to be brought up to speed is just not accurate. Before each (with the exception of Agnew who never ran for President) began to run for President, he met with many foreign policy experts to bone up on the issues.
If Giuliani had been picked in 1992 as a running mate for VP, he wouldn’t have been able to conduct extensive interviews right away. There is a learning curve for any governor running for national office and unfortunately, Palin had to learn very quickly and adapt her views to McCain’s.
It is lack of experience not lack of interest. And you the betcha is just gratuitous. The Consultant is correct that currently more populist economic policies are in vogue. Obama believes in more government intervention (not socialism but a decidedly liberal economic platform) in the economy and most Americans, unfortunately, seem to agree.
If we’re going to have socialism, let it not be selective. Let everyone have a piece of the tasteless pie. And bring back the draft, so that we can all paradoxically share in the glory and horrors of war more directly. If we are planning to stifle the entrepreneur, stifle him good, so that he or she loses all interest in the hard work and attention to detail that breeds excellence and creates something from nothing. Make all pigs equal, except the political porcine class. Nice direction we got going here.
Ian and ms. rand:
To paraphrase Saturday Night Live, well, I like Sarah Palin! I really like here. She is one of our best friends! Further, in the SNL tradition, if I were going to be stuck on a remote island, I’d want to be stuck there with Mrs. Palin! (What Biden’s parodic figure on SNL said about McCain.)
Gov. Palin is a significant woman, and a lovely person.
She has a few years to go, however, before she is akin to TR, Harry Truman or Gerald Ford in her ability to run our nation should something happen to McCain.
By the way, Ayn:
Mixing Ayn Rand and Orwell, and his Animal Farm with the pigs, would work ordinarily.
But my humble suggestion is to look instead at Eric Hoffer, who was even better a conservative philosopher.
The estates of all three still earn lots of money, to this day.
And don’t forget Milton Friedman. Our favorite Nobel Laureate.
Ian….I think you’re correct about candidates from the governors’ ranks needing to be briefed over and again. The Consultant was doing another of his “Trash Palin” routines. I just didn’t want to indulge his silliness too much.
As for your last graph about Obama, I disagree to an extent. I believe he is a strong socialist, as his own comments in that radio interview clearly demonstrate. And if you listen to it, you will hear that he also dislikes the Founding Fathers and the Constitution. In that, and more, he sounds like he is parroting the ideas of Jeremiah Wright and others in his circle.
Obama’s recent remarks to Joe the Plumber continue his long-standing theme, and his theme is socialism through and through. I believe it’s more than just “decidedly liberal,” as you put it. And I also think it’s rather scary.
I’ve said it before. Obama has a very clear pattern of radical associations, not an isolated person or two. And his own words show where he is coming from.
I believe all candidates get briefed once they have received the national nod from their party and I suspect that most ask for the briefings themselves. If they are good candidates-they have asked for briefings all through their campaigns-’cause if they’re not asking, they don’t care. Plus, the president needs to be briefed everyday-that’s why the people who surround him/her play an important role. To be briefed is not a weakness it is a sign of intelligence. IMHO
More information about the former PLO mouthpiece Rashid Khalidi’s ties to Obama has surfaced. The National Review reports that the Los Angeles Times is holding back a video of a party held for Khalidi in Chicago in 2003. Obama, Ayers and Dohrn were in attendance. Apparently Obama heaped praise on Khalidi, who had been Yasser Arafat’s spokesman.
The story was written by Andrew C. McCarthy. It can be seen in yesterday’s http://www.nationalreview.com.
REQUIRED READING FOR ALL VOTERS WHO VIEW THEMSELVES
AS INDEPENDENT REGARDLESS OF PART AFFILIATION OR LACK
THEREOF:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
WHY I CAN’T VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN
Tim, I don’t disagree. McCain, picked Palin for electoral reasons and not for governing. Given McCain’s age and health, he would have been better off picking someone who had more political experience.
That said, I don’t think cheapshots about her accents or mannerisms are particularly fair. Obama, has said he wants to focus on the issues but his supporters have mainly mocked Palin’s accent, family, intelligence, clothes, and mannerisms (“you betcha” being a prime example).
its not the first time that public office holders
have been made fun of….qualye, ford, just to name
two..Palin is an anti intellectual..read the article
by the columnist in the washington post today..Palin
is singularly not qualified to serve as president which
is the only job the vice president really has…and if
McCain made a poltiical pick without the proper vetting
it says that his judgments sucks as well.
Because it happened in the past doesn’t make it right now. That is a poor rationale. You are correct, Ford, was unfairly maligned by SNL as well. Ford, perhaps the best athlete to become President, was depicted as a klutz. It was unfair then and it was unfair now. Quayle, was not the moron he was portrayed to be either. Mispelling potato or “loose” for that matter does not disqualify someone from being VP.
One column from a Washington Post writer should not be determinative.
If you want to have the campaign decided on the issues, it works both ways.
Consultant…About a week ago Biden called “jobs” a three-letter word, and he even spelled it out. He has regularly demonstrated his capacity for factual mistakes of much more importance than that. Not to mention his “guarantee” of an international crisis if Obama is elected.
So, maybe you can stop sticking pins in that Sarah Palin doll of yours long enough to read that National Review article I linked above, It’s a disturbing story.
Or is constantly dumping on Sarah easier than addressing Obama’s troubling connections and radical ideas? So go vote for Obama—but no whining later when he and Pelsoi and Reid try to change the face of America—for the worse.
at this juncture in the economic meltdown..we do not
need a president McCain who is a supply side advocate
remember he did originally vote against the bush tax
cuts..and for a very good reason…but to currey favor
with the right he changed his position..as he did
on immigration reform…Obama is clearly to the left
but many times when a liberal becomes president they
take a centrist approach..his treasury sec will be larry
summers…for example…I would expect that he has
republicans in his cabinet…if not I will be disappointed
and remember the term is four years not forever so if
he governs from the far left that can be corrected
as it was with Jimmy Carter…I do not buy into the
fact that he is a socialist..we have already nationalized
the banks…given aig 120 billion..and are about to
bail out the auto makers…we already have a progressive
tax code…it matters not that he wants to change the
configuration to favor those making less than 250,000
in fact it makes perfect sense…those who have lots
of wealth already know how to shelter it…and
those at the lower end pay payroll taxes far in excess
percentage wise compared to those in the upper
brackets..the system is totally screwed up..and that
is why it failed..thanks to alan greenspan and milton
friedman…they were simply wrong..markets do not
self correct for the excesses…governments have to
do what the markets won’t..because greed takes over
and the only way to eliminate it is to watch those
who creates exotic instruments like CDS’s…we need
to try something else that is a modified form of
free market capitalism….Obama has the best understanding
of the current needs of the nation….and when you add
Palin into the mix..there really isn’t much of a choice..
so the question for me is do I stay a republican to
try and pick center right candidates in the primaries
or do I simply join the largest party in the nation
NO PARTY…which leaves me free to make judgments based
on my backround education and life experiences…and
my understanding of economics etc….
Ooops…The market went UP almost 900 today.
And the McCain camp is now demanding the L.A. Times release that Obama-Khalidi video, which I flagged above early this a.m. per the National Review article.
I think that if you don’t accept that Obama is a socialist, then you are ignoring the obvious. Fretting too much over Palin can do that to someone. The shrinks are calling it the SSS, wich is short for the “Sweet Sarah Syndrome.”
Jiminy..the market goes up ..and the market goes down..
these volitile swings in the market are a function of
short sellers covering…tomorrow it could be the opposite
but one thing is crystal clear..the world economy is in
retreat..consumer confidence is at an all time low
so don’t get giddy over market fluctuations…I certainly
don’t but then I don’t own stocks…Uncle Irving taught
me well..(.he was the scotch distiller.)..the market is
a suckers game…...
At 2:50PM. Ian used the “loose” word!
Larry Summers? Obama’s Treasury Sec? The guy who was drummed out of Harvard by feminists? The guy who said women might not be capable of excelling in certain fields because of some kind of gender weakness? The guy who (correctly) criticized Cornel West? Forget it. Obama wouldn’t have the nerve!
he is already is chief economics advisor
He thinks it gives him credibility to have a number of supposedly respected economists “on call,” as Raines (as a monetary hot-shot) was “on call,” until the implosion. So long as Barack’s handlers intimate to these egomaniacs that they are on the short list, they pause to attack his economics. That’s why the Billy Martins and the Wilie Randolphs are kept on salary, not at all for their “advice”, but more importantly so that they restrain their criticisms.
Some of the polls are now tightening, so this one isn’t over yet. It’s now getting back to what it always was going to be, which is a referendum on Obama. Obama has not been able to lock this up, despite all the media and pundit spin that has been claiming otherwise.
The odds are that most of the undecideds will go for McCain. I’d also bet that many people who have refused to particpate in any polling will vote for McCain. Will he win? It’s still a longshot, but it’s not over.
“Ian” is consistently intellectually correct about the issues facing our country, and, therefore, our Republican Party. One day we will perhaps meet. (If not already so; given the anonymity of these posts, it’s possible we have already met.)
In my romanticized world, we would be looking this Fall at the end of John McCain’s second term in office as president, and at peace and prosperity in our nation. Remember this: the “Man of War” rarely gets us into one. It’s the impotent who use a military solution first. And in 2000, McCain was the man of war, a great man and candidate, destroyed by the worthless Texas dicks who slandered and trashed him in South Carolina and elsewhere. Bush was living the “Cialus solution.” (Note this: I have never, in 35 years as a registered and voting Republican, publicly criticized a Republican president. Never. Until the last six months. I even gave my fellow Californian RMN a pass, on August 9th, 1974.)
Beware the whores in politics who are in it only for the K Street fees they receive. And other corrupt self-interests.
Whether we like it or not, the Democrats will win next Tuesday with (probably) 325-350 electoral votes. Our national party has gotten deluded. A great Republican candidate, whom I thought four months ago might have crushed the Democratic nominee, has now “flamed,” as the internet term my two sons use, defines. He was ready to be president eight years ago, but recent decisions, and the poor advice of those surrounding him, have hobbled a great man.
But: despair not. Think of 1976, when it was even worse for us Republicans. Didn’t take long to turn that around, yes? Or: 1964. Two years later, we got Reagan, in California, who would brilliantly lead our country back to prosperity following 1980.
the race is tightening! from 8 points to 5 points nationally
but that is totally unimportant..take a look at the state
races…colorado, new mexico, virginia, are all Obama needs
to win….you can give ohio and florida to McCain..
Pa is out of reach, so it appears that the race is over
unless all the polling is wrong
Mike:
McCain is going down valiantly, in flames.
He should have been president, but ignorant sheep voted for that simpleton from Texas in GOP primaries instead, in 2000.
Last weekend, I volunteered to help in the campaign of an incumbent GOP assemblyman, in Hyde Park. I called on the household of a “prime voter” Republican. Turned out he was the “poster boy” for our Republican Party—a retired Air Force officer, younger than us, who flew missions in the first Gulf War, and then in Afghanistan.
I was quizzical when I interviewed him. The Lt. Col., a caucasian Christian now in the reserves, had on his bumper a bunch of American flags and “Support our Troops” stickers. In the center of his bumper was a large “Obama/Biden” sticker.
We lost this American owing to the lack of diplomatic solutions. He explicated his reasons quite intelligently to me.
The Lt. Col. was not an anomoly: he represents a “sea-change.”
I’m voting for McCain next week. But our incumbent president has blown it for us Republicans.
Let’s not preach to the choir here on this board. Let’s try and work for our Republican Party the next two, and four years.
And let’s try and elect local candidates who do not tie themselves to the national party in a losing effort. For vivid example: Councilman Murtagh’s marriage to the McCain campaign’s faux-Obama radical affiliation has backfired with the voters here who are registered almost 2-1 as Democrats, and for whom the issues of 1968 are not even a memory.
Perhaps we’ll get somebody much better in two years—and hopefully, in four years.
But let’s not delude ourselves that a candidate of the incumbent national party has any chance of capturing the presidency in a recessionary, down economic cycle. Hasn’t happened since 1956. And there are very few good, intellectually credible people supporting the candidate of the incumbent party. Sad. It seems that only the corrupt lobbyists are supporting my national Republican candidate.
It is extremely disheartening what has happened to my favorite war hero, John McCain, over the last four months.
Jiminy,
There is a terrific piece on The Daily Beast website by Wendy Button titled “So Long Democrats” about why she, an Obama speechwriter is going to vote for McCain
Tim, I don’t believe we have met. Thanks for the kind words, though.
Unfortunately, McCain doesn’t have the resources or the organization necessary to win in the swing states in a close race. I am hoping he can keep it close though as I don’t want Obama thinking he has a huge mandate. There is always the outside chance of miracle but I am guessing that polling (with the exception of exit polling) is pretty acurate these days.
Tim, I am going to reiterate what I have said many times on this blog. You and others are wrong about George W. Bush. Looking back he will be thought of more fondly. We had an unsustainable policy that had promoted likeable dictators in the Middle East on the grounds that was the best we could do. In turn, that created resentment against the US among people in the Middle East that we were helping prop up corrupt dictators. With the benefit of hindsight, maybe corrupt dictators is the lesser of evils as opposed to Taliban-style popular rule but I think it was worth a try. Republicans lost their edge on national security after Bush tried to push through the Dubai ports deal. It was politically unwise but it was sound policy. Ditto on immigration, social security, and tax reform.
Sometimes in life, the unpopular thing at the time is the right thing to do in retrospect. Unlike Clinton, Bush took unpopular positions to try and fix social security, our borders, and the conditions that led to 9/11. Was he wrong? Maybe but at least he tried.
It should be noted that Bush’s father was not all that popular when he left office in 1992. He also got terrible coverage unlike today where Obama and msm speak fondly of Bush I. Something like 89% of the media voted for Clinton in 1992. Yet most of the policies that Clinton criticized Bush on such as the economy (raising taxes) and not taking out Saddam Hussein, Bush was later thought to be right on. The economy was not in a recession even though Clinton claimed it was and if Greenspan had lowered interest rates a little sooner, than the economy would have been pretty good. Now Democrats admit that Bush was wise not to defy the UN mandate and take out Hussein. Clinton, after criticizing Bush was raising taxes, decided to do the same (at least with Bush, he also decreased spending.
As for the millitary personal, most are still voting Republican. Obviously, the horrors of war can affect one’s politics. I wouldn’t read too much into that one man’s experience and political conversion. All polling shows that the majority of the millitary is going with McCain.
You are correct that the Republicans have an outdated message but I think this election will make the problem worse (at least for awhile) rather than better.
Tim..there is going to be a battle royale in the party
if McCain indeed looses..particularly if the reason for
his loss is a failure to get suburban and female voters
not to mention catholic voters which were the heart and
soul of the reagan democrats…the right wing will say
that McCain was never “conservative enough” and therefore
he lost the reagan democrats..this is an argument that
doesn’t hold water..the problem with the republican party
is that on issues that are important to the average voter
ie not spending more than you take in…and not starting
wars based on faulty logic thereby spending even more
the republican party’s right wing is totally out of
sync…in order for them to get back the votes they lost
they need to recraft a message that is appealing to the
middle ..if they can’t do that they will be a back bench
party for decades …because Obama is not dumb enough to
give the farm away in his first four years as like any
other politician he will govern from the middle regardless
of his personal views
i doubt these states can turn around in less than a week:
Pennsylvania Marist Obama 55, McCain 41 Obama +14
Washington Str (R) Obama 54, McCain 42 Obama +12
Ohio Marist Obama 48, McCain 45 Obama +3
Ohio AP Obama 48, McCain 41 Obama +7
Ohio Quinnipiac Obama 51, McCain 42 Obama +9
Florida AP Obama 45, McCain 43 Obama +2
Florida Quinnipiac Obama 47, McCain 45 Obama +2
Pennsylvania Quin Obama 53, McCain 41 Obama +12
PennsylvaniaAP Obama 52, McCain 40 Obama +12
North Carolina Obama 48, McCain 46 Obama +2
Virginia AP Obama 49, McCain 42 Obama +7
Colorado AP Obama 50, McCain 41 Obama +9
New Hampshire A P Obama 55, McCain 37 Obama +18
Nevada AP Obama 52, McCain 40 Obama +12
Pennsylvania F&M Obama 53, McCain 40 Obama +13
these are daunting numbers: you can factor in the
bradley effect all you want but the winner doesn’t
change…and these polls don’t poll young college
kids with cell phones not hard lines
Both Gallup and Rasmussen have it down to Obama + 3 nationally. How much of this movement toward McCain will impact the battleground states remains to be seen.
Frankly, I’d just throw out any of the “college polls,” and I think some of the others are suspect, too. Some of these polls are even confusing the pollsters themselves. I will repeat what I said earlier…this is coming down, again, to a referendum on Obama, not on McCain. And I think the undecideds will break heavily for McCain.
GOP Girl…thanks for the suggestion. I will read it. I read your earlier suggestions, too. They were very good.
Curious: Why is Obama personally campaigning in Pennsylvania if he has a 13 point lead? Maybe his strategists are telling him something different.
The nominee of the Democratic Party is going to win on November 4th with 350 electoral votes—maybe more. Now, it could well be as close as 300-235.
But I think not. Heck—it may even be MORE!
My lifelong Republican self is sad. Okay?
But let’s get real.
First: it is probably NOT in our best interests as Republicans to see our Republican presidential candidate elected this year! The next four years are going to be D-I-S-A-S-T-R-O-U-S!!!!!
If McCain were to somehow hold out, and win, owing to the Democrat bigots only, who vote aganist their own interests—this next presidency could spell the end of the Republican Party itself, if my war hero John McCain wins.
That is the torturous conundrum!
Go re-read “Marathon” and some of the other 500 books about presidential elections which will make this year easier to reconcile. (They’re in my library.)
And thank God! there were no State Supreme Court elections held this year in the 9th District.
Fellow Republican friends: get over it. Don’t be defensive. WE’LL be back. We’re not dead.
And I am with the Republican Party FOREVER. Got that? Regroup, and we’ll survive.
For better, or for worse.
Faithfully,
Tim
You’re right, Smartporpoise. And that is why McCain is in Pa., too. Obama has not closed the deal in many places, and reliable polls also show him below 50 percent in many areas.
In other words, he has not been able to “close the deal” despite breaking his word on public financing and then having outspent McCain about 4 to 1. That says something…not about McCain, but about Obama.
I also think his netowrk “infomerical” tonight will not work.
IDB/Tripp, which was the most accurate poll in 2004, also has Obama at just + 3 nationally. So does GWU-Battleground.
If these polls—and Rasmussen and Gallup, which also have Obama at only + 3 nationally—start to seep into the battleground states’ results, and I suspect they will, this race is not over.
The L.A. Times is refusing to release thw video tape of Obama, Ayers, Dohrn etc. at that 2003 party for the troubling Rashid Khalidi. But the word about that one is spreading far and wide. McCain is scoring points on Obama’s economics platform, too.
Sorry for the typos at the end of my last post. I was interrupted and rushed the last sentence.
national polls are not relevant..al gore won the national
poll and lost the election…this business about Obama and
radicals is foolishness….the american people are only
interested in who is going to solve their dire economic problems….80% want out of Iraq…no one cares about what
Obama may have said about Rashid Khaldi just because he
was a palistinian…and Arafat was in power….thats
a whole nother issue not on the table for this election
cycle
Khalidi is a leading scholar of Middle Eastern studies at Columbia, and he was a contemporary of Obama’s while on the faculty of the University of Chicago. Read: Palin blasts Obama for ties to Palestinian professor
Khalidi has been a harsh critic of U.S. foreign policy toward Israel and has accused the country of “occupying” Palestinian territories. But he has denied acting as a PLO spokesman during a seven-year period in the 1970s and 1980s.
so is the basis for the Palin critique that Khalidi
had an opionion about Israel as an occuping force
which it is…and that is according to Ehud Ohlmert
had Israel abandoned the west bank ..instead of encouraging
settlers to occupy..maybe Hamas would never have won
over Abbass’s side…but apparently Palin doesn’t
really have a good handle on mideast history either
and simply repeats AIPAC’s lobbying position which
80% of Israeli’s do not agree with
Tim,
You may be right about this election but there is no chance I’m going to let Obama win without a fight.
We all agree that the next four years are going to be bad – but I’d rather have McCain steering us than have to recuperate from what Obama has planned for us.
GOP Girl:
I love your spirit. If we were working (for no payment, as we are, as opposed to others extant) for John McCain in 2000, we would fall on our swords for him.
This is not the year in which to exhaust yourself. I’m certainly not going “balls out” myself, for my favorite war hero, or for any local candidate stupid enough to tie himself to the national GOP ticket. (This isn’t like 1934, when loyal Dems attached themselves to Roosevelt; or 1984, when good people tied themseves to our RWR. Murtagh’s an idiot.)
Get used to Obama for the next four years. Keep your money safe. Get ready for the next Republican Revolution in 2012, when Gov. Romney is elected.
had mitt been the VP…he could have been appointed
economic czar with street creds..and the middle would
have gone for it…instead we got ..you betcha!
After November 4th: ed1, Ian, GOP Girl—we must get together to rebuild.
My pal “consultant,” whom I nonetheless admire, will be in Florida, laughing at how our GOP failed this year. It is “consultant’s” privilege—he has been a great Republican. And I like him.
But I have never felt more completely lost, politically, since 1976 in a presidential election. May God help our country.
Now: I am signing off until after November 5.
Best to all.
Tim
Unfortunately, for Obama, he tells different audiences different things on the Israeli-Palestinian issue (he also does this on free trade). You can agree or disagree with McCain’s foreign policy positions but at least he is forthright about them. I doubt Khalidi would have held a fundraiser for Obama in 2000 in a Democratic Primary if Obama was as pro-Israel as he now claimes to be.
Khalidi is well-respected in certain circles and highly controversial in others. It is unclear what his role (if any) was with the PLO. He is strong critic of American foreign policy in general and not just Israeli-Palestinians issues, in which he has a fringe position.
We all know that you are a staunch critical of Israel. However, most Americans would be interested in seeing the video. It may be much to do about nothing but if so, the LA Times should just release it.
Consultant….I don’t know why, or maybe I do, but you are spinning half a story about Rashid Khalidi, who was tighter than a drum with the PLO during Arafat’s years. He still does not like Israel at all.
I won’t even get into real details about Obama and Khalid al-Mansour, originally known as Don Warden. But Percy Sutton said not long ago that al-Mansour was—back when Obama was trying to get into law school—trying to raise money to send Obama to Harvard Law.
Khalid al-Mansour, aka Don Warden, was a radical tied to Huey Newton and Bobby Seale of the Black Panthers, and who later was very tight with some big Saudi money men. Why was HE trying to raise money to send Obama to Harvard Law?
Percy Sutton’s statement about that is on YouTube. BTW, Percy Sutton, among other things, was at one time the lawyer for Malcolm X.
well all of it may be true..but considering my opinion
of the Israeli occupation it really doesn’t bother me
at all. that is one area that I have specific knowlege
in and I don’t appreciate the right wings use of Israel
to bolster its legitimacy..if you had told Israel in 1967
that they could live in safe and secure borders of that
date…they would have said yes in a nano minute..but
because of the radical settlers who believe in the
bible literally we now have an occuapation…i don’t
like radical thinking from whatever quarter
For anyone interested, the original L.A. Times article on this party for Khalidi, with Obama and others like Ayers and Dohrn in attendance, be found by a Google search.
The search terms are—“Rashid Khalidi” + LA Times + Wallsten + April 2008.
The LA Times reporter with the video tape is Peter Wallsten.
“Tim Hays
October 29th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
After November 4th: ed1, Ian, GOP Girl—we must get together to rebuild.”
I am game for that and I hope Jiminy will come too. We oughta set a place and time-as you already know who I am Tim, you can contact me directly.
Jiminy:
Please stop posting on this board until you become an honest human being.
Jiminy- you’re articulate, bright, etc.—but you are dishonest in your identity.
Sorry: I can’t stand that.
Tim
GOP Girl: It appears that your olive branch has been used to stir a martini, then discarded forthwith.
barkeep
I don’t know who you are, I don’t know who Jiminy is, and I don’t think Mr. Hays knows who Jiminy is (this part I could be wrong).
So if Mr. Hays doesn’t know who Jiminiy is – then Mr. Hays is trying to ruffle Jiminy’s feathers and get him to reveal himself.
If Mr. Hays knows who Jiminy is – then it is up to everyone’s imagination as to what Mr. Hays’ post means. IMHO
Jiminy has feathers? Perhaps he is Larry Bird. Or Chief Sitting Bull. Perhaps he works for Buena Vista Productions. Maybe he’s a British athlete. Or a large, old hat.
“barkeep
October 29th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Jiminy has feathers? Perhaps he is Larry Bird. Or Chief Sitting Bull. Perhaps he works for Buena Vista Productions. Maybe he’s a British athlete. Or a large, old hat.”
(Forgive me Jiminy but I can’t resist)
Perhaps Barkeep Jiminy is the AMERICAN EAGLE. :o)
Oh! This is fun! Well, the World Series just ended, and Philly winning is good for America. Last (and only) time the Phillies won the World Series, Reagan was elected.
GOP girl, barkeep, and others (including the mysterious Jiminy): see you after November 5!
God Bless America.
Stayed tuned for my rendition of “When You Wish Upon A Star.” Actually, it’s already on YouTube.
In the old days, I did a few tunes with Buddy Holly too.
Yes, Tim…The Phillies won. So maybe now the Phillie Phantic will post on this site. If Tampa Bay had won, Johnnie Ray might have made an appearance from the Great Beyond.
Either he or his good pal Dorothy Kilgallen. That’s how she got that interview with Jack Ruby—through Johnnie Ray, who knew Ruby “well,” so to speak.
From whence the song by Dion about the relationship – “Ruby Baby?”
Maybe so, Ed. :) The timing was about right, too.
Ruby was a Jack or Johnnie of all trades. “From a Jack To A King” in some ways, I guess. But The Hollies “On A Carousel” had nothing to do with him or his strip club.
If we did not have this conscious, sub-conscious divide it would literally be impossible for us to operate and function normally.
May be you are right.I think it is a good archive.Thank you!