Senate Democrats Knock Bill To Void Gay Marriage From Other States

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Senate Democrats are criticizing a bill introduced today by Republican Sen. Martin Golden, R-Brooklyn, that would strip the rights of same-sex couples in New York married in other states.

The measure, which doesn’t have a sponsor in the Assembly, is co-sponsored in the Senate by Sens. Thomas Libous, R-Binghamton, and Ruben Diaz, D-Bronx, the most staunch opponent of same-sex marriage among Senate Democrats.

In recent years, New York has administratively and through the courts granted same-sex couples married in other states many of the same rights afforded to heterosexual couples. But New York has yet to make same-sex marriage legal, a key fight this year in the Legislature.

Golden’s bill would be a step back for gay rights, Democrats said.

“It’s unfortunate the Senate Republicans continue to show hostility to protecting equal rights for all New Yorkers. Whether it’s on rent regulations or marriage equality, Marty Golden has proven he is out of touch with his district by once again putting the political priorities of his Republicans colleagues over the city he’s supposed to represent,” said Senate Democratic spokesman Austin Shafran.

Sen. David Carlucci, D-Clarkstown, Rockland County, also chimed in to knock Republicans. The freshman senator is a member of the Senate Independent Democratic Conference.

“I have great respect for Senators Golden, Libous and Diaz, but I am disappointed they have decided to introduce legislation that would void same sex out of state marriages in New York,” Carlucci said in a statement.  “This legislation is out of step with public opinion and an affront to all New Yorkers who care about equal rights.  It is regrettable that same sex couples in New York have to travel out of state to get married, but to now attempt to take away rights from thousands of New Yorkers is unconscionable.  I hope the rest of the Senate will stand united against this offensive bill.”

The bill came just a few days after New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg lobbied Senate Republicans in Albany to support same-sex marriage, and he’s a main campaign contributor to Senate Republicans.

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  1. It grows increasingly difficult to speak in a civil manner about these events, and so it is much easier for me to speak plainly: The Senate Republicans are, in fact, quite literally scumbags for introducing this measure, and the pro-gay in New York are simply going to find themselves going through the motions again unless they fight this fiercely and *GO ON TO FIGHT FOR* marriage equality by every legal means they can find. I do not see that spark and that passion that would turn this into a “must get done by all means” issue. In fact, I now have doubts that it will occur this legislative session, which means that the moment the bill fails, you get to spend the next 364 days destroying the efficacy of the Republican party in New York so that you can stack the legislatures with Democrats who will finally get done what is sensible, Constitutional, and pro-American. As to this actual bill, I expect it to go nowhere; and if it does, you have the COURTS with which to file the millionth lawsuit by which to tirelessly fight anti-gay scum who are, quite frankly, by this point, showing themselves to be clearly and recognizably anti-American.

  2. Contrary to what Shafran and Carlucci say, this is NOT a “human rights” issue, but rather the noble attempt by Diaz, Golden and Libous to oppose a reckless attempt by a ‘celebrity caste” to institutionalize, or otherwise lend legitimacy to, the activity and activism of a behaviour-based group which has been shown to have negative personal and social consequences!

    Were Cuomo and Bloomberg misled on “gay marriage”? Or are they simply ignoring the evidence against it?

    Who misled them, and why?

    As the very liberal Mr. Kirby said, good laws are based on good data, and the very least that our legislators can do is to acquaint themselves with the details of any issue.

    The article “Was Cuomo Misled on Gay Marriage?” outlined 21 reasons … 11 explicitly stated …why New York would reject gay “marriage! It is evidence-based!

    The FRC’s “Ten Arguments from Social Science Against Same-Sex Marriage” has as yet NOT been addressed by Cuomo or Bloomberg. It is evidence-based!

    A more realistic interpretation of the obvious psycho-sexual distress and mental disorder embodied in same-sex-attraction- disorders would be that outlined in the 2002 law review by Steve Baldwin “Child Molestation and the Homosexual Movement”.

    Part of that document reads:

    “… Unfortunately, the truth is stranger than fiction. Research confirms that homosexuals molest children at a rate vastly higher than heterosexuals, and the mainstream homosexual culture commonly promotes sex with children. Homosexual leaders repeatedly argue for the freedom to engage in consensual sex with children, and blind surveys reveal a shockingly high number of homosexuals admit to sexual contact with minors. Indeed, the homosexual community is driving the worldwide campaign to lower the age of consent … ”

    Also See W.D. Erickson et al, Behavior Patterns of Child Molesters, 17 ARCHIVES SEXUAL BEHAV. I, 83 [1988] and numerous other references on page 2 of 16 in Dr. Baldwin’s review

    What, exactly, are the current facts for New york … for America?

    WHY ISN’T BLOOMBERG ASKING THESE QUESTIONS? Why wasn’t there as strenuous an effort on the part of Teachers and Firemen’s jobs?

    HE WOULD GLEEFULLY SACK THOUSANDS OF FIREMEN AND TEACHERS, THEN FOIST UPON NEW YORK THE COLOSSAL BURDEN OF HEALTH COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH CARING FOR THE ‘GAY’ (SIC) POPULATION.

    How do we know this? Look no further than the Center for Disease Control “Snapshot” report for September 2010 ( http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf ) which cites Inter Alia the following astonishing statistic:

    ‘… While CDC estimates that MSM (Men having Sex with Men) account for just 4 percent of the U.S. male population aged 13 and older, the rate of new HIV diagnoses among MSM in the U.S. is more than 44 times that of other men (range: 522–989 per 100,000 MSM vs. 12 per 100,000 other men)….”

    Kathleen Melonakos’ “Why Isn’t Homosexuality Considered a Disorder based on its Medical Consequences?” (http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2006/nov/061130a )asks the question of Bloomberg, but gets no answers to his obvious recklessness!

    The sane answer is NOT to pretend that a mental/psycho-sexual disorder doesn’t exist, or to bribe legislators, or to institutionalize it through “marriage”, but to treat it with every medical/psychiatric/spiritual means available!

    See the last line in Dr. Paul McHugh’s online article “Surgical Sex” ( http://www.policystudies.ca/documents/Surgical_Sex_Change.pdf ) ! Tell me what you disagree with about it!

    Then understand the imperative of the article “Homosexuality is Not a Civil Right” ( http://www.crrange.com/wall34.html ) by Robert Regier and Daniel Garcia. Its predictive accuracy was … scary! An excerpt from that well-reasoned and articulated article clearly states the public/social-policy imperative :

    “… When protecting one’s inalienable and civil rights, the government must discern between liberty and license. This requires that rights attach to persons because of their humanity, not because of their behaviors, and certainly not those behaviors that Western legal and moral tradition has regarded as inimical to the “Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,” as stated in the Declaration. Yet, today some advocate granting “rights” to behaviors hostile to the most fundamental forms of self-government—family, church, and community. This is especially the case with homosexual activists, who ironically seek to hijack the moral capital of the civil rights movement….”

    Were Cuomo … and Bloomberg … and Shafran … and carlucci … misled on “gay marriage?”

    Who misled them … and why?

    Or … are they willfully misleading others?

  3. I honestly do not understand people who write nonsense legislation like this. They are sick, depraved, sadistic human beings.

    The fact that anyone is evil or ignorant enough to actually vote for cruel, evil people like Libous or Diaz makes me sick to my stomach.

  4. Can a party expel a Senator from its caucus? If so, why is Diaz still a democrat?

  5. I salute Senators Golden, Libous and Diaz for their courage on this issue. Good for them to turn the issue around the other way.

  6. And to comment on the other posts here, it is simply laughable to read about your ‘anti-American’ allegations against those who defend traditional marriage. There are actually few things that are more American than supporting traditional marriage. The vast majority of states prohibit same-sex marriage.

  7. Were Cuomo and Bloomberg misled on “gay marriage”? Or are they simply ignoring the evidence against it? Who misled them, and why?

    As the very liberal Mr. Kirby said, good laws are based on good data, and the very least that legislators can do is to acquaint themselves with the details of any issue.

    The article “Was Cuomo Misled on Gay Marriage?” outlined 21 reasons … 11 explicitly stated …why New York would reject gay “marriage! It is evidence-based!

    The FRC’s “Ten Arguments from Social Science Against Same-Sex Marriage” has as yet NOT been addressed by Cuomo or Bloomberg. It is evidence-based!