Sheriff’s Department Rips New Gun Law In NY

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The Steuben County Sheriff’s Department is criticizing New York’s new gun-control law, with the police union questioning how it would enforce the new provisions.

“At this time, it is not the intention of any member of our association to deprive any law abiding citizen their right to possess any legally owned firearm that has not committed another crime as defined by the current laws of the state of New York,” the Deputies Association of the County of Steuben said on the department’s Facebook page today.

The news release from the union followed one from county’s sheriff, Sheriff David Cole, who also knocked the law.

“Violence usually occurs with illegally possessed firearms and long guns, not legally registered weapons in the hands of law abiding citizens,” Cole wrote Friday. “These laws will now make it so thousands and thousands of law abiding citizens, who go to work, pay their taxes, and concerned about their children’s future, will now be considered criminals if they choose to stand up for the Second Amendment Rights guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution.”

Updated: The union’s leader, Senior Inv. Eric Tyner, said the union would enforce the law, but also recognizes that people may not understand it.

“Our office has been flooded with calls: ‘Are you guys coming and taking our guns?'” Tyner said.

The statements come as local law enforcement, county clerks and State Police will have to enforce the law signed last Tuesday. The law enacts a tougher assault-weapons ban and limits bullets in magazines from 10 to seven. It increases gun-registration requirements, including re-registrating guns every five years.

Peter Kehoe, the head of the state Sheriffs’ Association, said sheriffs have expressed concern about the hastily passed law — which lawmakers adopted just hours after it was printed late Monday and Tuesday. Kehoe said sheriffs are expecting to abide by the law, but they have their issues with it.

“While many of the provisions of this bill have surface appeal, it is far from certain that many of them will have any significant effect in reducing gun violence, which is the presumed goal of all of us,” the association said in a statement.”Unfortunately the process used in adoption of this act did not permit the mature development of the arguments on either side of the debate, and thus many of the stakeholders in this important issue are left feeling oppressed by their government.”

Gov. Andrew Cuomo has defended the law, saying the quick passage was needed to avoid a run on guns before it passed.

“What I’m saying is reasonable regulation,” Cuomo said Thursday on 1300-AM (WGDJ) in Albany. “I understand the benefit of a high-capacity magazine in a situation like self-protection. On the other hand, I understand the danger of a high-capacity magazine when it falls into the wrong hands. When you weigh the danger, I say reasonable regulation. It’s not worth having the assault weapons around, because they can do more harm than good.”

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  1. An Unconstitutional law is not a law, it is an act of TREASON. Sheriffs enforcing any laws which are contrary to what is Constitutionally allowed are TRAITORS committing treasonous acts against the Republic.

  2. “I understand the benefit of a high-capacity magazine in a situation like self-protection. On the other hand, I understand the danger of a high-capacity magazine when it falls into the wrong hands. When you weigh the danger, I say reasonable regulation. It’s not worth having the assault weapons around, because they can do more harm than good.” So why not just make commission of a crime while in possession of a magazine with a capacity of in excess of 7 rounds a much more serious offense or add a mandatory term to sentencing? Is it because our Governor knows, as most thinking people do, that the only people who will be adversely affected by his dead of night betrayal are the people that actually obey the laws?

  3. Remarks by Chele C. & J. Madison are perfect…and hit the bullseye! Will Barack…aka Barry, have to register his guns in DC…or does he have to report possession of same to the tribal chief in some Kenyan village where he was born? His records are sealed because he was a foreign exchange student on a visa; lied about it, lost his license to practice in Illonois, along with his charming wife, for fraud! He is the “Pope Joan” of US Presidents, and, while Lincoln was the Great Emancipator, O’Bama is the Great Pretender who, to date, has fooled most of the people, most of the time. Now, because of an incident in Connecticutt, New Yorker’s are bearing the brunt of the burden by becoming outlaws at the hands of Coumo….a White House “wannabee”! Next election, please vote for Assemblyman Jim Tedisco! Thanks for your time.

  4. Now that all police officers who do not use revolvers are criminals under this law, are they going to enforce it against themselves first?

  5. Ar 15 with 30 rnd mags and the like are the best for defense of life, liberty, and the security of a free state. Cuomo is the Coyote inside your house pizzing on yoiur carpet and trying to kill and eat your cat. He is there to declaw the cat. He is a monster attacking the civil rights found in the Bill of Rights. He must be removed. He is there with unlimited firepower 24/7 while asking you to disarm. He is a very dangerous and sick individual.

  6. “It’s not worth having the assault weapons around, because they can do more harm than good.” By that logic we can ban frigging Cuomo. Lets see, the a$$hole failed to prosecute charges against Spitzer for misusing state resources to go visit his hookers. Yet a failed AG still got elected Gov. Oh yeah, and that housing bubble. Lets not forget it was Cuomo who as head of HUD sued the banks and forced them to make all those high risk loans. This jerk off is a walking time bomb of stupidity. Hes screwed up every job he was ever given. Yes given, he rides on his daddy’s coattails.

  7. Governor Cuomo – Do you even know what an assault weapon is? You seem to have joined the bandwagon of throwing the term around. Sounds like a shortcut to thinking, though I am not surprised.

  8. I am a law abiding citicen third generation living in the same area as my father his father and his father Im raising the 4th and5th generation we want to live here and die here like the rest of our family.We all work my youngest son did 2 tours in afganistan Marine Infantry we have done nothing but work pay our bills and live here,Now all of the sudden we are felons and extremists the new law does nothing to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals it just gets in our pockets more. Each year NY looses 800000 people and only 54% of residents work this is not the way to change things. What do they want next????If these laws stand we will see how they like sending my retirement check to another state and when I leave it will be like 12 people leaving.

  9. The Sheriffs, State Police, and local Officers take an oath.
    Not to be bullied by the Governor. But to protect the public, uphold their laws, and the constitution.
    The Constitution supersedes all local laws first!
    Any Officer who enforces a law that they know is un-constitutional is a criminal.
    There are no two ways about it.

  10. Brian Bienduga on

    This was legislation hidden from the people. It was not “by” the people. We expect more from our political leaders than this. it is a huge responsibility of lawmakers to be informed and get input from the people. The power of government comes from the governed, not the suit we put in a comfy leather chair so we can go back to work and support our families. I don’t agree with this bill, and I am outraged about how it was hidden from “the people”! You don’t tell us what to do, we tell you what to do! Get off your high horse!

  11. Three of the seven quotes from Sheriff Cole’s letter.

    We should not forget that the spark which ignited the American Revolution was caused by the British attempt to confiscate the firearms of the colonists. – Patrick Henry

    When the government fears the people, it is liberty. When the people fear the government, it is tyranny. – Thomas Paine

    If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so. – Thomas Jefferson

  12. This abomination is eviscerated a priori by U.S. v. Miller (1939).

    “In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a ‘shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length’ at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could contribute to the common defense. Aymette v. State of Tennessee, 2 Humph., Tenn., 154, 158…”

    “…With obvious purpose to assure the continuation and render possible the effectiveness of such forces the declaration and guarantee of the Second Amendment were made. It must be interpreted and applied with that end in view.” – UNITED STATES v. MILLER, 307 U.S. 174 (1939) 307 U.S. 174

    As soon as the imminent action by the NYSRPA works its way to the SCOTUS, this and any other state’s so-called “assault weapons” (sic) ban are doomed.

  13. January 10, 2013

    “What’s the answer?”

    (A loved one asked me this question; I will now do my best to answer it)

    Dear Governor Cuomo,

    Mr. Cuomo your six point plan will not save one life should a madman decide to fulfill his perverted lunacy. Any more then keeping the wasteful COBIS system running would have; which you thankfully put out of its misery. In NYC the daughter of a wealthy radiologist had successfully stockpiled enough weapons and bomb making material to do massive harm. Last I checked the “Sullivan Law” was in full force there, and so were hundreds of other regulations with regard to the transportation, and use of explosives. President Obama after every horrible event like this has caused the same reaction in the public thanks to his irresponsible comments. Horror happens, he tries to soothe the broken hearted and the lost (I sincerely thank him for that) then he uses some of the worst language a President could choose and the whole show starts again; and then you get in the act and do the same immature dance. Firearms clear the shelves, ammunition is sold by the truckload, and then the factories get cranked up to do it all again. Because so long as we dope our kids up on these drugs, fail to turn boys into gentleman, and girls into women we can guarantee that these acts of terror will continue. Let’s try to stop the next one by not creating the very thing we all want to avoid in the first place. In the long run we want our children to pick up an iphone find out where there friends are and to grow up in peace and prosperity; while they try to sort out life’s challenges, just like we did.

    Now, New York is one of this nations primary “melting pots” and has some spots of extremely high density of population. Thus, it must have fairly restrictive laws to allow residents time to understand what citizenship is all about before they decide to pick up a firearm, much less understand it’s not for hunting deer. As I’m certain you are aware of the history of the “Sullivan Law” and what happened to Mr. Sullivan I won’t trod through old ground or even train tracks. But we must deal with the here and now in a nation that is going in the other direction no matter what happens here with regard to firearms. Because we are not going to leave The Union and drop the bridges and inspect every package like in the old East German days. What you seek to ban will find it’s way here, and it is only raw luck that it has not hit one of our schools yet considering how some children are raised, and how some parents have abandoned the responsibility to be good parents. Our modern world has many casualties; one of them seems to be selfless parents. Regardless, let’s proceed in the spirit of compromise and wisdom that our parents once had; because that wisdom was hard won, and it would be a shame not to apply to the reality we face today. We all can all read the statistics on crime. We all know historically what races and economic classes engage in what kinds of nefarious behaviors, and that it has high odds of putting them in the morgue. We all agree in New York that we have accepted our egalitarian responsibility to do what we can to lift those up, towards that noble end, we provide a ladder and push them up that ladder in an effort to break that cycle. Some say that we are nuts for doing this. But, when I’m at Carmines and I listen to the stories of my fellow NY’s it tells me that we are tough as nails for doing this, but we have hearts of gold. Don’t get me wrong. This isn’t easy or cheap. But we do get it done and we turn out some very tough Americans of every race, color, or creed.

    Let’s apply the same focus on firearms. Let’s acknowledge that we need good guys and gals with pistols near schools as a permanent fixture. Please don’t forget we lost the Twin Towers because we took guns away from pilots. That’s a sobering thought. That one act of disarmament changed world history. To allow the insane even that much breathing room is too much and we have an obligation to defend our children from this foreseeable risk just like we do airplanes. Pistol permits are a disaster in New York. On the one hand the “rich and famous” get them, but they live lives of ease and comfort, and the odds of them needing one are astronomically low unless they want to end it all; but the odds of that business woman who is on the train heading home to her husband and kids might he not need one late at night? The answer is yes – she might need one. So let’s find a way to make that happen for those who want to shoulder that awesome responsibility. Finally, “military style firearms and their accouterments.” Whatever they may be. Whatever they may look like. It would be far easier and less costly to institute a simple requirement that says NY’s must present a CC permit from any State (assuming it requires the basics) to obtain such a firearm than trying to ban them. Just look at a map or hang out at a rest stop on I95, preferably not with Jim McGreevey. These thoughts ought to be expressed as a compromise between both Democrats and Republicans at the State level and at the Federal level as well. Simple solutions that are the least costly will provide the best results. They always do, it’s why you are not married, and it’s why I am. By the way? Why is that? You should make an honest women out of her. People like weddings.

    They like Presidents with wives.

    Respectfully,

    Joe Doakes

  14. Sheriff Cole,

    This citizen of the State of New York will not obey the new firearms laws just enacted as they are clearly in violation to the Constitution of The United States of America. I will not submit, I will not yield. I am the protector of my freedoms and this state government has just crossed one line too many. I will either live a free man, or die a free man. I will not live as a subject or slave. You may ask if this line in the sand is worth my life. Yes it is. The real question is, is it worth yours and those of your officers? Your move…

  15. Silence Dogood on

    This is an outrage. Pack your lunch Sheriff, you are on the wrong side of this argument. Florida stands with our Brothers and Sisters under the boot of Napolean Cuomo. If it on, we’ll see you there.

    http://www.oathkepers.org

  16. Next up: u can only buy a 3-pack of beer, a quart of wine or a pint of liquor. Do u think the powerful lobbying beverage industry would allow this to happen. Bars can only serve u 3-12 oz beers, 2 glasses of wine or 3 shot in a day. They will keep track of ur consumption with a permanent marker tick marks on the back of ur hand. Alcohol kills more people annually than guns. Can’t wait for the first court case to be heard on “Gov. First SAFE” legislation. Oh by the way were is our do nothing Lieutenant Governor and retired police chief on this legislation I’m sure he’s packing a pistol with more than 7 round.

  17. I can’t find anyone, gunshop owners included, that understand the technical details of the new gun laws let alone how it would be administered. Virtually nothing in the form of guidance has been provided to shop owners or those responsible for sales. I guess they will make it up as they go along.

  18. The second amendment needs to be repealed. It’s 2013, not 1791. A well-regulated militia in 2013 is the National Guard. All of these people should join it if they want to continue to play with military-grade guns, with obviously necessary supervision. The rest of us would like to ensure our right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness… none of which gun proliferation promotes.

  19. @Sane Citizen

    The 2A will not be repealed, we will not register our weapons, we will not turn in our weapons, we will not be dictated to by people who wet themselves at the idea of freedom and liberty. You are not compatible with a free people who will fight and die to defend the natural rights given to all by the hand of God. You do not have the moral authority to dictate to others how to live, what they may possess, where they may go. You are not even intelligent and educated enough to understand that the only thing that has secured for you your right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness has been people with guns willing to fight, kill, and die to secure those rights for all. And millions have died to do so. You are also not intelligent enough to understand that you cannot have a right to liberty while seeking to remove that right from others. People like you, with the intellect of a small infant, need to gain a real education before they enter a debate on subject matter they know nothing about. You do a great disservice to people who have real concerns based on actual facts. You seem only able to operate by the emotional reactionism typical of a young teenage girl who believes she has all the answers when, in fact, she doesn’t even know what most of the questions are yet.

  20. @Sane Citizen: You obviously have NO CLUE about firearms. You are one of the Many ignorant people who don’t know the definition of “Assault Rifle” but you Think you know one when you see it ! Any military person would think you were crazy if you ask them to take one of these so called “assault weapons” into battle ! If you would bother to read, or have read to you, the writings of our founding fathers, you would discover that your entire argument has no merit whatsoever. If you cannot understand their intent, have a child that has Actually Studied US History explain it to you! Hint: The Militia they spoke of was NOT to be under the direction of the Federal Government, and did not have to be part of any national guard !